Critique my prologue?

Think your comic can improve? Whether it's art or writing, composition or colouring, feel free to ask here! Critique and commentary welcome.

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

Critique my prologue?

Post by VileTerror »

Please tell me what you think of this opening text. Each panel will have an image with it, I'll have the rough drawings up in about a week if anyone is interested.



Page 1 - Prologue
Panel 1
Welcome to Dyrge.

Panel 2
Though it is yet uncertain if Dyrge is a province, country, continent, or an entire planet: it is certain that it is a nearly barren wasteland.

Panel 3
No natural bodies of water have been discovered, on or below the surface.

Panel 4
The only moisture here can be found in the air and in the few wilted plants and cacti.

---

Page 2 - Prologue
Panel 1
Quite some time ago a woman foresaw a kingdom, in her mind
Last edited by VileTerror on Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:40 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

Josh IV
Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2003 3:42 am

Post by Josh IV »

i'm thinking about donuts

the prologue was nice.. but having a hard time visualising it... sounds interesting..

warm donut and milk.. mmm..
Image

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

Donuts? That's nice . . . and random. Good work.

Post by VileTerror »

I'll have the visuals up and online eventually.

I should be in bed right now . . . but . . . well . . . being a procrastinator doesn't automatically make me willing to sleep.
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

Kyouryuu
Regular Poster
Posts: 29
Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2003 2:08 pm
Contact:

Post by Kyouryuu »

It feels just a bit long. There are some parts, I bet with creative framing, where you can combine panels together.

By the way, it's "As per." Not "As par." ;)

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

Ah.

Post by VileTerror »

Thanks.

I thought it felt a little off.
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

User avatar
Yeahduff
Resident Stoic (Moderator)
Posts: 9158
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:16 pm
Location: I jumped into your grave and died.
Contact:

Post by Yeahduff »

To be incredibly nitpicky, it should be

Though it is yet uncertain if Dyrge is a province, country, continent, or an entire planet, it is certain that it is a nearly barren wasteland.

Colon doesn't work there. Not big, so ignore me if you feel like it.
But anyway, I got more interested as it went, so maybe getting right to it would be more effective. Start at page two instead, perhaps. Page one has information that helps get a feel of the place, but for an opening, it's not the attention grabber that it needs to be. We know less, but we're more intrigued. It worked for Shakespeare.
Image
I won't be the stars in your dark night.

User avatar
Faub
The Establishment (Moderator)
The Establishment (Moderator)
Posts: 3698
Joined: Tue May 20, 2003 2:53 pm
Location: Missouri, USA
Contact:

Post by Faub »

Okay, I'll throw in my 2 cents. My penny pig will be unhappy, but there you go.

The first page doesn't really grab the reader's attention. It would be better to start with the second and leave page 1 for the start of the actual storyline. The prologue is meant to grab the readers' attention. Page one doesn't do that.

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

Thanks.

Post by VileTerror »

Faub always knows what to say . . . I think . . . maybe.

Perhaps.

Anyway: Thank you to both you and Yeah Duff (who seems fairly erudite too).



But as far as getting <i>rid</i> of page 1 . . . is that absolutely necessary? Might it fit better elsewhere? Might there be a way to make geography interesting? It's an important fact about Dyrge since a few minor plots will be somewhat based around it.
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

User avatar
Faub
The Establishment (Moderator)
The Establishment (Moderator)
Posts: 3698
Joined: Tue May 20, 2003 2:53 pm
Location: Missouri, USA
Contact:

Post by Faub »

Page 1 is fine. It should be the first page AFTER the prologue, though. The readers have then been introduced to the story and you can step back and introduce them to the world. You could even go into some of the factions involved and some of the reasoning behind that, the political landscape. Suuni vrs. Shiite, that type of thing.

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

Actually:

Post by VileTerror »

(Though I'm probably ruining interest, blah, blah, blah . . . anyway)
The story begins with Harem Lord as the only official ruler. I'm actually adapting my original story idea (which was meant to play out in my online role playing game) so that we can see the political changes and the on-set of war through the eyes of different love-smitten citizens/civilians.

Though thanks for the idea about moving page 1 of prologue to page 1 of story 1.
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

User avatar
Yeahduff
Resident Stoic (Moderator)
Posts: 9158
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:16 pm
Location: I jumped into your grave and died.
Contact:

Post by Yeahduff »

Perhaps if you found a way to introduce the terrain as the guy's talking about building the city. Like, "This is all the crap I had to put up with, cacti, sand, etc." But not page one.
Image
I won't be the stars in your dark night.

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

Ah!

Post by VileTerror »

That also sounds quite valid. Thank you.

Perhaps I shall have to rethink this entire opening. Thanks to all of you who have been helpful.

Also: sorry about the lack of images. I'll try to et some samples up soon . . .
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

User avatar
YarpsDat
Cartoon Hero
Posts: 3637
Joined: Wed Oct 30, 2002 5:28 am
Location: nowhere

Post by YarpsDat »

VileTerror wrote:Critique my prologue?
No.
You are the Non. You must go now, and never return."

"1.Scan in high res 2.tweak with curves,levels or something to clean up the scan (or use channel mixer to remove blue pencil lines) 3.Add colour using a layer set to multiply. 4.Add wordbubbles and text as vector shapes. 5. Merge all layers. 6.resize to the web size. 7. Export/Save for Web" that's all I know about webcomicking.

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

GLEE!

Post by VileTerror »

You are <b>so</b> cute!
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

User avatar
Taiwanimation
Cartoon Hero
Posts: 1078
Joined: Fri Jan 01, 1999 4:00 pm
Location: Fremont, CA
Contact:

Post by Taiwanimation »

an eight-page prologue! I would say scale back down to 2 pages or so, otherwsie the actual story may turn out too long to finish.
Image

User avatar
Ian the Scribe
Regular Poster
Posts: 63
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:02 pm
Location: Victoria, B.C.
Contact:

Post by Ian the Scribe »

I like the prologue. I'd suggest being unorthodox and uploading the entire prologue as something the reader could go back and look over, and have the first page be your title -- the prologue reads well as a continuous thing, but I think it would drag and be off-putting if I had to read it one day at a time.

You might also want to make some of the language more intense, more immediate -- "This is Dyrge. There is no water."

Overall, though -- looks good. I'll be watching for more.
Image

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

Silly me!

Post by VileTerror »

I just remembered, I've uploaded some images already!

Right, well: they have nothing to do with the prologue and I drew them for something else, but they are Dyrge characters.

http://static.zed.cbc.ca/users/v/VileTe ... s/HoAn.JPG - original queen of Dyrge
http://static.zed.cbc.ca/users/v/VileTe ... s/HaLo.JPG - tyrannical queen of Dyrge
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

User avatar
Yeahduff
Resident Stoic (Moderator)
Posts: 9158
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:16 pm
Location: I jumped into your grave and died.
Contact:

Post by Yeahduff »

When do you think you'll put this thing out? I can't tell much from the current drawings posted, but it's the story I'm interested in.
Image
I won't be the stars in your dark night.

User avatar
VileTerror
Anti-Villain
Posts: 3437
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:16 am
Location: n. 1 a place where something is located. 2 the action of location. - DERIVATIVES locational adj.
Contact:

Fuck!

Post by VileTerror »

First I have to figure out what I'm gonna do!

I honestly don't understand love and this whole comic is starting to feel more like an ordeal than . . . well, I Blame Danny has been great fun. But heck, it's worth it. I'm always up for experimentation.

I don't know when I'll be ready to start. All I've got is the basic plot of the overall story. The point of this comic is to avoid the big picture and focus on the people.

Actually, only a few days ago I came up with the four initial lover groups. 2 couples, 1 love triangle, and 1 wannabe Casanova. I'll see if I can write about them before carrying on.

Overall: could be a matter of weeks or months. I've also got exams to possibly worry about.
Haughty spirit and pride make for a wild roller coaster ride!
I mean, as long as you like fairly final endings.

User avatar
Ron, the mad one
Regular Poster
Posts: 116
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:28 am

Post by Ron, the mad one »

Page 1 - Prologue
Panel 1
Welcome to Dyrge.

Panel 2
Though it is yet uncertain if Dyrge is a province, country, continent, or an entire planet: it is certain that it is a nearly barren wasteland.

blablablabla

ADD SPACESHIPS, and lots off 'em

Post Reply