Kisai wrote:The idea is that if you seriously want to do it, you need to be able to "do" it, not just whip up something in photoshop. ^^;
Ah, but that's not what I said.
I said a mock-up in plain already-error-corrected Transitional or Strict HTML 4.0, designed as a BASE that could be elaborated on and made more interesting by you guys if you so choose or perhaps based on suggestions from the designer.
For example, I don't see why
http://www.keenspace.com and guide.keenspace.com have to be a different page, but I don't have any idea how to code any of the dynamic stuff off guide (like the different sort list thingamajigs). Also, even if www and guide have to be seperate pages, it looks like you want them both designed by the same person (which is sensible), HOWEVER, I think that limits your field of potential designers from around here who can meet your submission criteria by more than you want to limit it (for the reason listed in the previous sentence).
I have a design in mind that I think would look consistent with the current 'spot theme, but I KNOW I don't know how to do any of those dynamically modified charts, so if the ability to do that is required, I'm screwed, even though I also know I could code a base page that those could be easily plugged into by someone with the knowhow (plus, I also think it would be neat to put a randomly-selected "featured comic" kind of thing on there or something, but again, my knowledge of javascript and the like is insufficient).
Kisai wrote:I had this problem back in 1999 when one person used dreamweaver and the other person only hand coded stuff, the person who handcoded stuff could never sift through the junk code dreamweaver made, and dreamweaver always made a mess out of his handcoding.
BBEdit, the best HTML-coding software out there (IMO), has a great syntax checker, so you wouldn't have to worry about this in my case. Go ahead and check the code on my comic's site. Aside from autokeen script and the like, I'm pretty sure it's still error-free.
Kisai wrote:I have no problem with "junk removal" from stuff like dreamweaver, however the result is usually not what the designer had in mind.
Believe me, I know what you mean. But wouldn't you want to discuss anything like this with the designer anyway, whether their design has any junk-code in it or not?
Kisai wrote:I know someone who used frontpage all the time... something that makes a lot of IE-specific references and generally doesn't make stuff that looks as pretty on non Win-IE.
Frontpage sucks. Couldn't you just tell people they can't use it for the contest (I know, I know, hypocritical...
)?
Kisai wrote:She basically doesn't care if people use "crap" browsers and it doesn't work on those.
Anyone who cares about their web work with any level of seriousness knows they have to test it on a variety of browsers and operating systems. I did so with my comic's site, and I have the peace of mind of knowing it renders consistently across platforms (well... maybe not really old versions of NS or IE...but, other than those...).
Kisai wrote:If I could design something pretty, I'd avoid tables and frames, cause I find both are misused where just div's would have worked.
Frames are stupid, but depending on the complexity of a design (meaning, if it's really simple), isn't it sometimes easier to use tables? I can't really say for sure, of course, because I don't have enough knowledge of CSS to control item placement using only <div>s right now.
Again, I don't think you want to limit entries to "only CSS," because you might end up cutting the playing field down to only 2 or 3 people (at least, around here), which I don't think would be a a very good initial pool.
