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in the end it's not the words themselves that are bad, but the meaning behind the words, either the meaning generated by the person saying the word or the meaning generated by the person hearing it. Words have power and meaning because we give them that power and meaning and some words will always cut some people to the bone, we can become as politically correct and as polite as we want but there will always be those people who hate for one reason or another and those who are the, usually undeserving object of that hate. I wish that there was a simple way to deal with these things, I tend to agree with mcDuffies that it's about parents teaching their children about these words and the impact that they have, but on the other side of that you have those parents who are passing their hate and racism down to their children too. So it will all continue, at least for a while.

I've always said I hate people in general and love them in particular, it makes things easier when you hate all the people's of the world equally, because honestly, in every culture, in every country you have intollerance and racism and hate, but you also have good, decent, understanding, and accepting people everywhere you go. I'm just sad that there are far more of the former than there are the latter.
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As one comedian once said, the best way to stop a hateful word is to give it new meaning. She's not offended by the word nigger, in fact she intends to create a whole new meaning for it by eventually coming up with a snack chip line. Ranch Niggers, Sour Cream and Onion Niggers, Garlic Niggers, but no Barbeque Niggers. The joke continues on, but I won't bother.

I have no problem with Aaron McGruder, creator of Boondocks, using it. It's a late night show with explicit sexual and violent themes. Characters have heads and limbs hacked off in bloody sprays of death, graphic insinuations of donut tossing onto a penis ensue (God bless Robot Chicken...), and countless other very adult situations occur. There are warnings this is not for children, and parents should be monitoring what their children watch. Last I checked, the FCC has relaxed standards during the time frame Adult Swim is on so if little Johnny or Suzy grade school is watching then it is most certainly the parents fault.

Let him say nigger through a bunch of black characters in what I feel is actually a very balanaced view of race. I'd like to see what context it was being used in, and then I'll decide if how he used it is stupid or not.

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Mercury Hat wrote:There's really no such thing as "reverse racism", there's just racism.
Reverse racism is when you go to a multiculteral day event at your school with a friend (because hey, free hamburgers) and there is an "African-Amercan" student there representing a student group responsible for "Educating people about what diversity really means." When asked for an example of what they did, he brings up an article in the school newspaper where the "white editor" allowed the journalist to use the word "blacks" instead of "african-american".

When asked why it was alright to call whites "white" but not to call blacks "black" he informed my friend (who is coincidentally half hispanic and 1/8 cherokee but looks whiter than my germanic-aryan self) that it was because "white people chose to be called that."

WTF??? I missed that poll! :-?


Reverse racism is the phenomena that exists when discrimination against the majority is officially sanctioned on some level. It's the new and more fashionable approch to racial issues.

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I still view it as racism since it fits under the definition of "racial prejudice or discrimination", but it's really just arguing semantics.

You'd think "reverse racism" would be tolerance, anyway :-?.
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Pillywiggin wrote:[8 cherokee but looks whiter than my germanic-aryan self) that it was because "white people chose to be called that."
You might want to check out the definition for "Aryan"

http://www.answers.com/aryan&r=67
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princess wrote:
Pillywiggin wrote:[8 cherokee but looks whiter than my germanic-aryan self) that it was because "white people chose to be called that."
You might want to check out the definition for "Aryan"

http://www.answers.com/aryan&r=67
I actually did look it up before I used it. I said "germanic-aryan" instead of just "aryan" because I was trying to clarify that I meant the word as it was defined by the germans as opposed to the more accurate ethnical meaning. "Nordic" isn't really an ethinical term I've ever heard before so I didn't want to use it.

It probablly would have been simpler for me just to say "stereotypical german" :roll:
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Guys, calling any person of darker skin than Queen Elizabeth anything but African-American is wrong. Even if they've never been to America and grew up in Cuba. Calling people the letter-after-m-word is wrong, as well as referring to it in writing. Anyone who does besides me should be dragged outside, raped, and shot. Because political correctness is crucial.

On another note, a press release today noted that all blond-haired people are now to be called "pigmentally-challenged."
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Jigglyman wrote:Guys, calling any person of darker skin than Queen Elizabeth anything but African-American is wrong.
Quite right. I'll be sure to refer to my Taiwanese roommate correctly from now on.
On another note, a press release today noted that all blond-haired people are now to becalled "pigmentally-challenged."

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Turi wrote:
yeahduff wrote:As for "nigger,"(...)
Finally someone actually wrote the bloody word. I find it amazing that people can discuss the use of a word for more than an entire page without actually mentioning the word. I was wondering what "the n-word" meant up until the Huck Finn comment. Not using a word I can understand, but to give it a cover word when discussing it is downright wrong. Words are given potency that way; think of "Jahve." I thought the idea was to make it puplicly understood that "nigger" is a derogatory term, not to hide it away in shame over a dark past and then belive that will solve the problems still lingering from said past.

I'm not saying that this is why you say "the n-word;" I assume that is just how you do in America, but that doesn't change the effect.
Oh, it was that word, I thought we were talking about the other "n" word! :wink:
As one comedian once said, the best way to stop a hateful word is to give it new meaning. She's not offended by the word nigger, in fact she intends to create a whole new meaning for it by eventually coming up with a snack chip line. Ranch Niggers, Sour Cream and Onion Niggers, Garlic Niggers, but no Barbeque Niggers. The joke continues on, but I won't bother.
Wasn't it Lenny Bruce? I remember I heard something similar in his biopic "Lenny" (by Bob Fosse).

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The word idiot must now be replaced with person-that-did-or-said-something-so-annoying-it-makes-me-want-to-stab-them-in-the-throat.

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McDuffies wrote:Wasn't it Lenny Bruce? I remember I heard something similar in his biopic "Lenny" (by Bob Fosse).
I remember seeing the comedian say that on TV and it was a woman.

As for the topic, it somewhat depends on how Boondocks used it and if it was bleeped out or not. I don't think Cartoon Network would have aired anything exceptionally offensive.
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& then there's the difference between nigga and nigger, as outlined by Tupac. :D

I've been called up a lot of times in my writing for racial 'slander' & not being politically correct. People have also refused to publish me/edit me on those grounds. I think it's a lot of bullcrap no matter which way it goes. Plus the repetition of a word -especially when ok'd by Tv - makes it lose its power, or at least that's what I've been told.

What I find offensive is actually words like African-American or Asian-American. They're the only things I won't put in my writing, because those kind of subcategories piss me off.
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blackaby wrote: What I find offensive is actually words like African-American or Asian-American. They're the only things I won't put in my writing, because those kind of subcategories piss me off.
lol I always wonder if a White South African moves to America are they African-American?
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princess wrote:
blackaby wrote: What I find offensive is actually words like African-American or Asian-American. They're the only things I won't put in my writing, because those kind of subcategories piss me off.
lol I always wonder if a White South African moves to America are they African-American?
Or if a Russian is born in Siberia, are they Asian?

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blackaby wrote:What I find offensive is actually words like African-American or Asian-American. They're the only things I won't put in my writing, because those kind of subcategories piss me off.
Not only that, but people CAN be black without being American, or so I've heard. Plus it sounds silly.
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Turi wrote:
blackaby wrote:What I find offensive is actually words like African-American or Asian-American. They're the only things I won't put in my writing, because those kind of subcategories piss me off.
Not only that, but people CAN be black without being American, or so I've heard. Plus it sounds silly.
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If I had a nickel for every buddie film where a black buddie goes and calls some friends of his "nigga'" and then white buddy goes and does the same and thus causes a fight...

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Jigglyman wrote:Guys, calling any person of darker skin than Queen Elizabeth anything but African-American is wrong. Even if they've never been to America and grew up in Cuba. Calling people the letter-after-m-word is wrong, as well as referring to it in writing. Anyone who does besides me should be dragged outside, raped, and shot. Because political correctness is crucial.

On another note, a press release today noted that all blond-haired people are now to be called "pigmentally-challenged."
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Jigglyman wrote:Calling people the letter-after-m-word is wrong, as well as referring to it in writing. Anyone who does besides me should be dragged outside, raped, and shot. Because political correctness is crucial.
*Gives Jigglyman the "Euphemism of the year award"*
On another note, a press release today noted that all blond-haired people are now to be called "pigmentally-challenge."
For total political correctness it should be "Person with pigmentally-challenged hair".
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blackaby wrote:What I find offensive is actually words like African-American or Asian-American. They're the only things I won't put in my writing, because those kind of subcategories piss me off.
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