Gay people should be rounded up and fixed...

Major Maxillary · Post by **Major Maxillary** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:40 am

that's it. someone call the A team.

Squidflakes · Post by **Squidflakes** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:07 am

oh lordy oh lordy he's eat up with THE GAY!

I'm sure the camp doesn't mind the publicity either.

WhatMeWorry? · Post by **WhatMeWorry?** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:40 am

squidflakes wrote:oh lordy oh lordy he's eat up with THE GAY!

I'm sure the camp doesn't mind the publicity either.

They don't, to be sure. I was a fundamentalist for a while and one thing that they are good at is the martyr complex whenever it comes to the whole "us vs. them" thing with them and "the world". You see, the more people tell them they are stupid inbred arseholes who wouldn't know their missionary position from a missionary mission, the more they think "Hey, we are getting persecuted like Jesus got persecuted. Wow, we must be doing things right!".

Yes, it's sad.

Caduceus · Post by **Caduceus** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:28 pm

Huh. Bach wrote his music for the glofication of God. How is that not Christian?

Tellner · Post by **Tellner** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:32 am

It looks like the attention has begun to pay off. It also appears - surprise, surprise - that this band of Talibani cock-sockets isn't licensed by the state to do therapy of any sort.

Tellner · Post by **Tellner** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:34 am

Stephen Henderson-Grady wrote:Huh. Bach wrote his music for the glofication of God. How is that not Christian?

Bach is a little too highbrow for the fundies. Intellectuals are dangerous. His work also engages the mind and enlarges the soul. And that is squarely against everything they believe in.

Kingofthemorlocks · Post by **Kingofthemorlocks** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:52 am

tellner wrote:
Stephen Henderson-Grady wrote:Huh. Bach wrote his music for the glofication of God. How is that not Christian?
Bach is a little too highbrow for the fundies. Intellectuals are dangerous. His work also engages the mind and enlarges the soul. And that is squarely against everything they believe in.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I love Classical music, I love the thrill the melody sends through me, the shivers that run along my spine as each note creates a glissando along my nerves, the feeling you get while listening of being able to fly on the wings of the soul, the bliss...but you know, Jesus hates it when people are made to feel like they're worth something.

Prettydragoon · Post by **Prettydragoon** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:43 am

kingofthemorlocks wrote:
tellner wrote:
Stephen Henderson-Grady wrote:Huh. Bach wrote his music for the glofication of God. How is that not Christian?
Bach is a little too highbrow for the fundies. Intellectuals are dangerous. His work also engages the mind and enlarges the soul. And that is squarely against everything they believe in.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I love Classical music, I love the thrill the melody sends through me, the shivers that run along my spine as each note creates a glissando along my nerves, the feeling you get while listening of being able to fly on the wings of the soul, the bliss...but you know, Jesus hates it when people are made to feel like they're worth something.

It's his loony fanboys that are the problem. Just like with Fred Gallagher.

Tellner · Post by **Tellner** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:56 am

WhatMeWorry? wrote: They don't, to be sure. I was a fundamentalist for a while and one thing that they are good at is the martyr complex whenever it comes to the whole "us vs. them" thing with them and "the world". You see, the more people tell them they are stupid inbred arseholes who wouldn't know their missionary position from a missionary mission, the more they think "Hey, we are getting persecuted like Jesus got persecuted. Wow, we must be doing things right!".

Yes, it's sad.

That's exactly why I don't think much of this sort of protest. The only good thing about it is that it can rouse some of the opiated masses from their stupors. On the down side it ratchets up the belief and persecution level of the True Believers.

CJBurgandy · Post by **CJBurgandy** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:04 am

tellner wrote:It looks like the attention has begun to pay off. It also appears - surprise, surprise - that this band of Talibani cock-sockets isn't licensed by the state to do therapy of any sort.

Part of me wonders if my letter to the APA helped push this along in any way.

Cuteswan · Post by **Cuteswan** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:29 am

After only a few months in the American south I have much more appreciation for why the fundies are so hated. Even if it is only the outspoken (and obnoxious) minority, they really piss me off. It sickens me that I vote for the same candidates as these jackasses are likely to.

About two weeks ago, at around 8:30 PM, two short scraggly bible thumpers just walked right into my hospital room and wanted to pray with me. I told them that I was Jewish -- by choice -- and that they must leave. Instead, one of them started telling me his "best friend is Jewish. His name is Jesus." I called the nurse and had them chased away; the next morning I gave the poor doctor (one of the good ones who was covering for the jerkoff that the emergency room had assigned) a loud earful about hospital security and the potential for lawsuits.

I moved the unused IV stand next to my bed so that I could thwack any more uninvited guests quickly.

Also, there are cable channels devoted to pay-per-pray "ministries," and they often try to use bits of Jewish culture and "old testament" stuff into their messages, but they get the facts completely wrong: a mezuzzah is not represetnative of the lamb's blood over the doors when the Angel of Death was taking a Passover-night stroll through Egypt, etc.

Argh. Anyway, I hope the state agencies find the poor kid soon and take him away from his ignorant parents.

Tellner · Post by **Tellner** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:33 am

cjburgandy wrote:
tellner wrote:It looks like the attention has begun to pay off. It also appears - surprise, surprise - that this band of Talibani cock-sockets isn't licensed by the state to do therapy of any sort.
Part of me wonders if my letter to the APA helped push this along in any way.

As the Muslims would say "Insh'allah" (G-d willing).

Squidflakes · Post by **Squidflakes** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:34 am

I'm a bit out of the loop I guess, you're laid up in the hospital Swan?

Tellner · Post by **Tellner** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:38 am

cuteswan wrote:Also, there are cable channels devoted to pay-per-pray "ministries," and they often try to use bits of Jewish culture and "old testament" stuff into their messages, but they get the facts completely wrong: a mezuzzah is not represetnative of the lamb's blood over the doors when the Angel of Death was taking a Passover-night stroll through Egypt, etc.

Spiritual carpetbaggers, the frickin' lot of them.

Argh. Anyway, I hope the state agencies find the poor kid soon and take him away from his ignorant parents.

We can only hope and pray that they do and that he hasn't taken too much damage from the abuse.

Cuteswan · Post by **Cuteswan** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:11 am

Oh, I thought I'd mentioned it already: Around the 6th I started having what I thought were gas pains, but lying down made it much worse and I couldn't sleep (even sitting up). On the evening of the 8th, while strolling around the health path at the county hospital (as walking around made me feel good enough), I finally went into the emergency room and told them it was severe gas pain. Even though the ER nurse kept telling everyone he thought I was faking (and somehow tampering with the heart monitor to make it jack up to 230 bpm every so often), it eventually turned out that I had pulmonary embolisms (blood clots in my lungs).

I was admitted and ended up staying for about thirteen days while getting a type of heparin (Lovenox, which I kept calling "Nova lox") and coumadin. I would have gotten out sooner, but my blood tests kept showing that the coumadin wasn't working (and the doctor even implied that I wasn't really swallowing the pills). Actually, the pharmacy didn't have the info sheet on coumadin that I'd requested my first day there, and after a week and several questions to that doctor, I talked to a senior nurse and she told me that leafy greens (or anything with lots of vitamin K) counteracted coumadin; so, I stopped eating the piles of collard greens, spinach, beet greens, broccoli, lettuce, etc. that they kept serving for lunch and dinner. D'OH! Now I'm "therepeautic" and not supposed to shave (but I did when I got out, anyway -- tweezing just my upper cheeks and around my lips so I'd be presentable in the hospital took over two hours, but I had nothing else to do).

I finally got out Tuesday, with a prescription that I could only afford half of (and Eckerd's added a 25% premium for the privilege of allowing me to buy 1/3 that night and then the rest after a friend wired me money the next day -- it's back to Osco from now on). However, I also bought a thank-you card for the nurses in the family practice ward, as all (except maybe one) were absolutely terrific. (Well, even though they weren't allowed to go to my car and get my laptop or notebooks or fresh clothes, or even close the windows as six straight days of thunderstorms arrived. At least I could see my car from the hospital room.)

A hospital administrator said that I probably wouldn't have to pay for the stay, but that still leaves the doctors, radiology, the pharmacy, etc. I don't look forward to seeing the bill. Heck, had I known, I would have gone back to Massachusetts where everything would have been covered by the state (being low-income and all).

Anyway, I still think the kids at this camp have it worse. I watched But I'm a Cheerleader (which Steel Roses had mentioned in the Virginia thread), and even that was more disturbing than funny to me.

Major Maxillary · Post by **Major Maxillary** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:32 am

cuteswan wrote:Oh, I thought I'd mentioned it already: Around the 6th I started having what I thought were gas pains, but lying down made it much worse and I couldn't sleep (even sitting up). On the evening of the 8th, while strolling around the health path at the county hospital (as walking around made me feel good enough), I finally went into the emergency room and told them it was severe gas pain. Even though the ER nurse kept telling everyone he thought I was faking (and somehow tampering with the heart monitor to make it jack up to 230 bpm every so often), it eventually turned out that I had pulmonary embolisms (blood clots in my lungs).

I was admitted and ended up staying for about thirteen days while getting a type of heparin (Lovenox, which I kept calling "Nova lox") and coumadin. I would have gotten out sooner, but my blood tests kept showing that the coumadin wasn't working (and the doctor even implied that I wasn't really swallowing the pills). Actually, the pharmacy didn't have the info sheet on coumadin that I'd requested my first day there, and after a week and several questions to that doctor, I talked to a senior nurse and she told me that leafy greens (or anything with lots of vitamin K) counteracted coumadin; so, I stopped eating the piles of collard greens, spinach, beet greens, broccoli, lettuce, etc. that they kept serving for lunch and dinner. D'OH! Now I'm "therepeautic" and not supposed to shave (but I did when I got out, anyway -- tweezing just my upper cheeks and around my lips so I'd be presentable in the hospital took over two hours, but I had nothing else to do).

I finally got out Tuesday, with a prescription that I could only afford half of (and Eckerd's added a 25% premium for the privilege of allowing me to buy 1/3 that night and then the rest after a friend wired me money the next day -- it's back to Osco from now on). However, I also bought a thank-you card for the nurses in the family practice ward, as all (except maybe one) were absolutely terrific. (Well, even though they weren't allowed to go to my car and get my laptop or notebooks or fresh clothes, or even close the windows as six straight days of thunderstorms arrived. At least I could see my car from the hospital room.)

A hospital administrator said that I probably wouldn't have to pay for the stay, but that still leaves the doctors, radiology, the pharmacy, etc. I don't look forward to seeing the bill. Heck, had I known, I would have gone back to Massachusetts where everything would have been covered by the state (being low-income and all).

Anyway, I still think the kids at this camp have it worse. I watched But I'm a Cheerleader (which Steel Roses had mentioned in the Virginia thread), and even that was more disturbing than funny to me.

ah, the wonders of our modern medical facilities.

"i see you have the little machine that goes 'BING!'"

Squidflakes · Post by **Squidflakes** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:48 pm

well I hope you're feeling better. Amazing how disorganized hospitals in this country are eh? You'd think that a little something like a medication that had reduced effects when combined with leafy green veggies would have a little flag, or something on it to inform the nurses that your meals shouldn't contain the above mentioned.. hummmm

Toawa · Post by **Toawa** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:08 pm

It does make me wonder about a hospital whose staff (at least a portion, anyway) seemed more intent on proving that you were faking the condition as opposed to trying to figure out what was going on...

WhatMeWorry? · Post by **WhatMeWorry?** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:12 pm

cjburgandy wrote:
tellner wrote:It looks like the attention has begun to pay off. It also appears - surprise, surprise - that this band of Talibani cock-sockets isn't licensed by the state to do therapy of any sort.
Part of me wonders if my letter to the APA helped push this along in any way.

Woot! Woot! A drink of choice for our local girl CJ!

WhatMeWorry? · Post by **WhatMeWorry?** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:19 pm

Toawa wrote:It does make me wonder about a hospital whose staff (at least a portion, anyway) seemed more intent on proving that you were faking the condition as opposed to trying to figure out what was going on...

Toawa-

Welcome to the state of modern medicine. I suggest you get used to it and it is advisable to learn tactics with which to work around it.