It will be in the morning!CasVeg wrote:Why is this not a tee-shirt?No country would dare to bomb North Korea now;
they are to afraid of being hit by nukes themselves.
Try us.
Shaaruuk
Food for though. Chew carefully.
No I wont try you, because I know what the outcome wpuld be. As I said it is called nucklear deterrence and even GW Bush wouldn't dare to attack a land with weapons able to destroy entire cities. So it's more like a stale-mate with none going anywhere.
Oh yeah, the war in Iraq was for oil. When Saddam was a threat to the USA's oil, USA stepped in. This is because USA is not self-supporting with oil, I believe you only cover about 30-40% of your own oil use.
Oh yeah, the war in Iraq was for oil. When Saddam was a threat to the USA's oil, USA stepped in. This is because USA is not self-supporting with oil, I believe you only cover about 30-40% of your own oil use.
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How many western countries, if any, are able to supply all their petrochemical needs domestically?
Im just curious because i'd initially think that it'd be a very small number ... i know for instance that Aus comes close in LPG and natural gas, but im pretty sure we still need to import large amounts of crude.
Im just curious because i'd initially think that it'd be a very small number ... i know for instance that Aus comes close in LPG and natural gas, but im pretty sure we still need to import large amounts of crude.
The Scandinavian countries and Great Britain have access to the oil in the North Sea, I believe that Denmark and Norway are almost self supporting with oil. Some of the South-American countries are self supporting too. And so are most of the countries in the Middle-East.
I know that USA could be self supporting, but most of that which they could use are positioned in Alaska. And I believe that it would be to expensive to extract the oil, so the US turn its eyes otherwhere.
To RH: I do not think that Saddam's regime was a good thing, I'm just stating some of the problems concerning the war in Iraq.
And Saddam wasn't chosen because he held the people up on gunpoint. It was because the US supported him.
I know that USA could be self supporting, but most of that which they could use are positioned in Alaska. And I believe that it would be to expensive to extract the oil, so the US turn its eyes otherwhere.
To RH: I do not think that Saddam's regime was a good thing, I'm just stating some of the problems concerning the war in Iraq.
And Saddam wasn't chosen because he held the people up on gunpoint. It was because the US supported him.
Blastech:
I'll have to research that question a bit. domestic oil production in the US is pretty low, but I believe some of that had to with a long term strategic plan, utilize other supplies before our own just in case things got really hairy (with Russia) and the external sources were cut off from us.
The environmental movement has predicted an end to the world's oil supply for decades now, starting in the 60's we were supposed to have run dry it sems every five years. I'm just wondering when WILL the end be reached. Especially with the chinese economy starting to rumble.
There are still untapped resources in North America, but it all depends on whose propaganda you buy:
ENVIRONMENTALIST: "There's nothing here, go away, let the animals be, AND BURN ALL THE FACTIRIES!!!"
INDUSTRIALIST: "Untold wealth lies beneath our feet, if we would just do a little exploration,... then we could DIG IT UP, DIG IT ALL UP MWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!"
Somewhere in between those two extremes lies the actual truth.
Greatdane:
Welcome to your baptism of fire. RH is not noted for subtle diplomacy when expressing his viewpoint. May I offer a different viewpoint: Most of the wealth in the US is concentrated in a relatively small portion of the population. This may be true, but who cares? My income qualifies me as solidly lower class and in all honesty I have everything I could possibly want. Additional material possessions are merely a distraction from what is really important in life, God, family and friends. So what if I can't afford a new Dodge Viper, Cruisemaster yaght, or small Carribean island. My basic needs are met, and I have a circle of friends that I care about, and that care about me. I may not be worth as much as Bill Gates, but he is finding out that all his wealth may not be able to save the life of the woman he loves, therefore, what value is money.
How many superstars around the world who have wealth and fame have died of drug abuse and alcohol addiction? How many have ridiculously messed up lives?
I can only hope to aspier to the apostle Paul and be content in no matter what situation I am in.
My human nature desires more, but my divine friend Jesus tells me there is much more to this life than a Cadillac in the garage and filet mignon on the plate.
I'll have to research that question a bit. domestic oil production in the US is pretty low, but I believe some of that had to with a long term strategic plan, utilize other supplies before our own just in case things got really hairy (with Russia) and the external sources were cut off from us.
The environmental movement has predicted an end to the world's oil supply for decades now, starting in the 60's we were supposed to have run dry it sems every five years. I'm just wondering when WILL the end be reached. Especially with the chinese economy starting to rumble.
There are still untapped resources in North America, but it all depends on whose propaganda you buy:
ENVIRONMENTALIST: "There's nothing here, go away, let the animals be, AND BURN ALL THE FACTIRIES!!!"
INDUSTRIALIST: "Untold wealth lies beneath our feet, if we would just do a little exploration,... then we could DIG IT UP, DIG IT ALL UP MWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!"
Somewhere in between those two extremes lies the actual truth.
Greatdane:
Welcome to your baptism of fire. RH is not noted for subtle diplomacy when expressing his viewpoint. May I offer a different viewpoint: Most of the wealth in the US is concentrated in a relatively small portion of the population. This may be true, but who cares? My income qualifies me as solidly lower class and in all honesty I have everything I could possibly want. Additional material possessions are merely a distraction from what is really important in life, God, family and friends. So what if I can't afford a new Dodge Viper, Cruisemaster yaght, or small Carribean island. My basic needs are met, and I have a circle of friends that I care about, and that care about me. I may not be worth as much as Bill Gates, but he is finding out that all his wealth may not be able to save the life of the woman he loves, therefore, what value is money.
How many superstars around the world who have wealth and fame have died of drug abuse and alcohol addiction? How many have ridiculously messed up lives?
I can only hope to aspier to the apostle Paul and be content in no matter what situation I am in.
My human nature desires more, but my divine friend Jesus tells me there is much more to this life than a Cadillac in the garage and filet mignon on the plate.
Always tell the truth, that way you don't have to remember anything. -- Mark twain
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SolidusRaccoon
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Better watch out of W will use his Zionist death ray on you. Maybe if you will turn of the Socialist News Networks and stop praying at the alter of Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore and look at the facts for yourself.greatdane wrote: Oh yeah, the war in Iraq was for oil.
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
How rude! Do you have a problem with Michael Moore?
Tbolt: Don't worry, I can handle it. I don't mind getting into a serious political discussion, it's... invigorating. The youth in Denmark has a very socialist attitude to everything, so it's hard to find someone to argue with: all we can do is to pat each others shoulders and say "you're right."
So long we can keep this discussion political I think it's fine. The moment we get personal with each other, eg: "you're stupid because you think like that.", then I'm off it. Discussions are good, the opportunity to express one self is good, that's what freedom of speech is all about.
Tbolt: Don't worry, I can handle it. I don't mind getting into a serious political discussion, it's... invigorating. The youth in Denmark has a very socialist attitude to everything, so it's hard to find someone to argue with: all we can do is to pat each others shoulders and say "you're right."
So long we can keep this discussion political I think it's fine. The moment we get personal with each other, eg: "you're stupid because you think like that.", then I'm off it. Discussions are good, the opportunity to express one self is good, that's what freedom of speech is all about.
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Other than he is a filthy liar, Fakes footage for hisgreatdane wrote:How rude! Do you have a problem with Michael Moore?
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
Dude....you CAN'T be THAT naive!!! His abomination "Farenheit 911" was a total work of fiction.......and even the film institutes weren't too happy that he tried to palm it off am a "documentary". That he cut and pasted clips and responses to "interview questions" to get the desired answers has been proven......greatdane wrote:Funny, in my opinion he is the one who exposes people who are like that.
He's a lying, fraudulent piece of sh*t with all the credibility and objectivity of 'Hanoi Jane' Fonda.
Shaaruuk
We are NOT surrounded.....this is a "target rich" environment!
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Michael Moore is a socialist scumbag. greatdane comes from a socialist country. So over there he is treated like a god. They are brainwashed that way from an early age.
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
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If he's living in Europe, he certainly -can- be that ... not naive, but unacquainted with the facts of the matter. When have the major media ever pointed out the blatant lying of F911 or Bowling for Columbine?
Greatdane, most of what Moore has put out in those movies is edited to the point of fraud. He takes out-of-context clips and pretends they're a single speech; he stages events and pretends they're standard procedure; he blatantly falsifies facts and historical events. (One case in point - the 'weapons culture' of Columbine's rocket factories - they make weather satellites.) Depending on Moore's 'documentaries' for facts is rather like depending on the old Soviet Union's Tass Bureau or the current Chinese gov't for reporting on human rights violations by their own agencies.
Greatdane, most of what Moore has put out in those movies is edited to the point of fraud. He takes out-of-context clips and pretends they're a single speech; he stages events and pretends they're standard procedure; he blatantly falsifies facts and historical events. (One case in point - the 'weapons culture' of Columbine's rocket factories - they make weather satellites.) Depending on Moore's 'documentaries' for facts is rather like depending on the old Soviet Union's Tass Bureau or the current Chinese gov't for reporting on human rights violations by their own agencies.
Skydancer
Ignorance is not a point of view.
Ignorance is not a point of view.
Might I put in that we have a right-wing, liberalistic goverment in Denmark. It's the youth that's socialistic.
I know that Fahrenheit 9/11 was very one-sided. I haven't seen it, so I can't say nothing about it.
However, Bowling for Columbine is a totally different story, but I won't get into details with it.
In my opinion, all documentaries are one-sided. It is so rare that one sees a documentary that shows it's content for both points of view.
Socialism is an ideology. It does not have anything to do with being naive. I could claim that all right-wing supporters are naive, but I don't, because i know they are not (maybe misdirected). Every one is allowed to have his or her meaning about everything, and just because their way of thinking are different from one self one shouldn't call them naive (just misdirected).
I know that Fahrenheit 9/11 was very one-sided. I haven't seen it, so I can't say nothing about it.
However, Bowling for Columbine is a totally different story, but I won't get into details with it.
In my opinion, all documentaries are one-sided. It is so rare that one sees a documentary that shows it's content for both points of view.
Socialism is an ideology. It does not have anything to do with being naive. I could claim that all right-wing supporters are naive, but I don't, because i know they are not (maybe misdirected). Every one is allowed to have his or her meaning about everything, and just because their way of thinking are different from one self one shouldn't call them naive (just misdirected).
http://moorewatch.com/
http://www.cwob.com/movies/oscars2003/bfc.html
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20021119.html
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysi ... it-911.htm
And a movie I recommend you go out and either rent or buy right now---
Farenhype 9/11
Micheal Moore's deceptions, subtleties and falsehoods, not to mention his visceral hatred for his own country and his own countrymen, have been documented out the wing wong for years.
http://www.cwob.com/movies/oscars2003/bfc.html
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20021119.html
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysi ... it-911.htm
And a movie I recommend you go out and either rent or buy right now---
Farenhype 9/11
Micheal Moore's deceptions, subtleties and falsehoods, not to mention his visceral hatred for his own country and his own countrymen, have been documented out the wing wong for years.
"What was that popping noise ?"
"A paradigm shifting without a clutch."
--Dilbert
"A paradigm shifting without a clutch."
--Dilbert
If I wanted to I could find just as many links that told how good, honest and truthfull Michael Moore is, but I won't: There's different views on everything and we will never come any further with this discussion, none in this discussion, including me, are going to change their minds no matter what. So why don't we just stop it here, unless any of you have anything to add...
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Well if you would think for yourself you would see MM is a liar, nothing objective about it. Just like the sun is yellow and the sky is blue.
There are also websites that say President Bush planned and orchestrated the 9/11 attacks because his Zionist masters ordered him to, that the holocaust was a hoax, that Bin Laden is a peaceful man just like Gandhi, but he was set up by the US, that there are no terrorists in the world, its all a scam by the US, that Al Gore and John Kerry both won, it
There are also websites that say President Bush planned and orchestrated the 9/11 attacks because his Zionist masters ordered him to, that the holocaust was a hoax, that Bin Laden is a peaceful man just like Gandhi, but he was set up by the US, that there are no terrorists in the world, its all a scam by the US, that Al Gore and John Kerry both won, it
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
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Well, there'd be a difference, though - the sites that point out that Moore is a lying sack of fertilizer back up their statements with referenced facts. The ones that praise him don't...greatdane wrote:If I wanted to I could find just as many links that told how good, honest and truthfull Michael Moore is, but I won't: There's different views on everything and we will never come any further with this discussion, none in this discussion, including me, are going to change their minds no matter what. So why don't we just stop it here, unless any of you have anything to add...
And good documentaries always show both sides of the issue in question. That's what makes them documentaries rather than propaganda.
Skydancer
Ignorance is not a point of view.
Ignorance is not a point of view.
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Kerry Skydancer
BINGO!
BINGO!
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.