Kris X wrote: We all have morals.
That's right, we all do. They're personal, and they should be kept that way.
You didnt keep yours that way. You decided to use yours as a justification for your contempt. You wrapped yourself up in those morals and claimed the high ground.
You disagree with the editors, fine. Just dont act morally superior about it.
You also seemed to blank out my comment that I did not say all WCE were bad writers. It's the people who run the site that I do not agree with. Please don't put me out of context
I didnt even refer to the other writers. And as such, there was no context to put you out of.
a writer as yourself should know slander is a no-no
Here's a few things a writer like myself knows:
Slander: 1. Legal. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation. 2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone is spoken.
Libel: 1. A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation. 2. The act of presenting such material to the public.
To illustrate: I start a thread on this board where I assert that you were a member of Al-Qaeda, and that it's true, true, true. That's libel.
Now why that's different from my "Comixpedia guys all molest baby-seals" crack earlier is that I am not asserting that it's true, and by most public standards, the outrageousness of my statement would file it under joke. Of course, your mileage may vary according to the nation you're in.
Got it?
Great.
mcDuffies wrote:Man, Will G., you did your best in this thread to deserve a "bitchy" tag from me.
Gee, I was hoping for "Mr. Cranky-Pants"
Starting with your joke about baby seals, which was innocent for itself, but seeing how rather upset you are about WCE issues, it gets into a context where... where it seems that you're hiding more serious dislikes behing innocent jokes.
Nope.
I tend to wear my likes and dislikes on my sleeve. If something gets mentioned as a like by me, then you can be assured that it's pretty much on the level. I seem to recall giving Comixpedia their dues in my previous message. I wasn't lying. They are the best at what they do. Simple as that.
Now, if you want to know what I do hide: I NEVER offer a review or a critique to a webcomic I think is no good. In that respect, my philosophy matches what the intended editorial focus Joe Zabel set out for WCE is.
As for me being upset. I know I make the mistake a lot myself, but sometimes words come across as more meaningful than they actually are on the boards. I see Kris X as being pompusly self-serving about her reasons. But her not wanting to write is fine. I never said she had to.
Say, isn't it too early to make such comparisions?
Talk to Joey Manley if you dont like the comparison between WCE and TCJ. He made it.
http://www.joeymanley.com/archive/2004_ ... rchive.php Scroll down to "I Knew Him When"
I just agree that this should be the niche for the WCE.
Comixpedia exists for years now, works well, has a cartain reputation, something that makes readers believe in what they say. WCE has yet to prove that it will live longer than average good webcomic does. Yet, you want WCE to be as well respected, as known, on the same level as Comixpedia. Well, it won't work that way, Comixpedia had to go a long way until deserving that kind of repuation and WCE ain't getting it right away. No reason for being mad about it.
This is not important because you're basing it off of something that isnt there. Not that I think you're unimportant, but you're ascribing to me anger that isnt there, and that makes this previous statement irrelivent.
But if someone doesn't want to do that kind of stuff, isn't that their choice?
Well, duh.
The way I see it, Chris X contacted WCE not knowing their particular editorial course, and getting to know it, she realized it's not what interests her. Maybe it's not the kind of comics she reads, and hell, if she is doing a job for free, it's only logical that she'll expect to like doing that job. Now, force her with a gun to write reviews for your ambitious webzine, will you?
Um, reading between the lines is fine and all that, but make sure there's something there to read. She offered a comic to review, it got shot down, and now she's presenting her dislike as a moral decision, which in no subtle way implies that she is more moral than the editors.
Morals are indeed personal, but to use them as a justification for your contempt, regardless of what she thinks of the rest of the WCE writers, is pretty contemptable in itself.
I saw pius, self-aggrandizing crap and I called it as I saw it.
In fact, all your attitude is "Boo-hoo-hooo! Someone's putting an objection on a webzine I write for! And since I write for them, it's logical that they're always right and that nobody should ever make a negative comment on their work, how can people not realize that?"
As I stated before: Nope. For the reason why, see above.
But since you brought it up, I did see a lot of crap fly around these parts about the mag before I started writing there and I found most of it pointlessly idiotic at the time since I dont recall seeing any criticism that was valid.
What I did see was a lot of what I earlier described as "We'll never get reviewed there so they're big poopie-heads! Stick it to the man! Bulls on parade!" And I have to be honest with you, one of the reasons Keenspace gets shit on a lot is just that sort of highschool level world-view that permeates the community.
And before someone comes along and gives me the "Love it or leave it" type post. If I didnt think this boad had some good comics and interesting people, I'd never visit it.
Simple as that.
That's one thing that I don't like at Comixpedia either - write an article on Penny Arcade and bring two PA fanboys to write it - and no wonder you don't dig up and real important issue around this comic - and there certainly are important issues. In my opinion, reviews at Comixpedia are far from objective too - probably in fear of 'hurting' a webcomic community. Forgetting about the good old saying: "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger".
I do agree with you on that point. But I think they are doing their best in that regard because no matter what bent the review will have, they will get shit on for it.
Look at Hard's month long whine after he got his review. And then the continuation of his whine after he received a positive one from WCE. It makes the game pretty hard to do because the dumb hicks that follow their favorite webcomic like a religion will come storming over the hills like crusaders bearing down on Jeruselum.
Sadly, nothing can be done about the shrill, obsessive nature of fan-folk.
I mean, we all got fans. But there's fans, and then there's fanatics. The second repulse me.
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crap
It is growing faster then most start-up comics. I'm already hitting the 150th place range, which isn't bad considering that the comic hasn't hit 10 pages yet.
