"You can't be serious"

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:10 am

Its got to be something pritty dire. Quentyn's already stated that he dosn't cair about the title of questor, he'll just carryon doing his work anyway so it can't be anything to do with the high councel revoaking his status or anything... why do I get the horrable feeling that he's wanted for something? Maybe the gahrum want his head to keep the peace? or maybe one of the gang memerbers in the tower died? who knows?

Tbolt · Post by **Tbolt** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:56 am

The thing that really has my curiosity piqued are those two words "in absentia". Someone is playing fastball, fast and low. A trial took place without the defendant being present, and apparently not even aware of the charges? Well, that's the impression I get without googling legal websites.

I agree with you, Astral, I'm not sure what legal precedents or standards they are drawing upon, but it has to definitely be something big, because it seems like they are ignoring some of the defendant's rights.

TGIF · Post by **TGIF** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:02 am

The fact that whatever took place was "In absentia" is curious.

If Quentyn was being tried or sued one would assume that their system of justice would have allowed him to appear to defend himself - it wasn't as if his location was unknown.

Note the use of "the claim". Maybe Quentyn's been claimed as a husband for having rescued Nessie?

If it is a criminal trial, I suspect that the politics that he ran into before is about to explode and swallow him up. That's the only way I could see a judgement being rammed through without him having a chance to defend himself.

TGIF

LoneWolf23k · Post by **LoneWolf23k** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:25 am

Yep, just like I thought.. RiBs, Rac'conan in Black. Although I'm guessing they won't find their assignment to be as easy as they thought.. Note that she did say "if you think we won't fight this".. Which I take to mean "...by any means necessary."

Now, I'm not saying those two agents will end up buried in a shallow grave near Freeman Downs.. ...But I'm thinking they'll be having some serious problems getting Quentyn back to their city...

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:27 am

TGIF wrote:
Note the use of "the claim". Maybe Quentyn's been claimed as a husband for having rescued Nessie?

Yikes thats a fair point. But then again, if that was true, then that would meen everytime a batcular questor saved some girl from the jaws of death he would be obliged to marry her X.x kinda a discuragement from saving them at all. No, Rose was far too shocked for it to be something as rediculess as that, its almost as though there are extreamly dire consirquences for Quentyn.

Tbolt · Post by **Tbolt** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:39 am

That is a good point, guys, "settlement" does smack of a civil case as opposed to a criminal case. And a civil judgement does not carry the same burden of evidence as a criminal case.

Perhaps this has to deal with the collapse of the warehouse? Somebody trying to make a few fast rings off our hero? Then other interested parties might step in to make it a political issue.

Heck if that's the case, this could all just be a smokescreen just to get Quentyn back in to Sanctuary to deal with the whole isolationist / expansionist issue whether he wants to or not.

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:19 am

I going to agree as well is what they discribe sounds like some sort of civial matter rather than a legal one, but the problem is to find out who profit from suing Quentyn and for waht reason? You've got the Disciples who might be after, but that seems unlikely since, if they exist, they probably still havn't even heard od Quentyn. You've got the Gangs, which may be the ones but this a little more serious than that. I think that it might be one expanionist bunch who thought of a way to get a potential thorn out of their side for good. I mean obviously, they are not going to come and say they are acting on the part of the expansionist group, but they will be. Can one sue away a Questor badge? I really, REALLY don't like the fact that this was settled beforehand, with Quentyn involved. I just thought of something, what if it is not a suit? What if someone thought they have found some old legal bally-who that they believe will force Quentyn to forfeit his badge? Expansion guys on this theory.

On a differant note, this has got to be one of my favorite strips to date. I love the fact that during the enttire conversation, Quentyn is having a life and death struggle with a multi-legged monstrousity. Reminds of the classic scene in Star Wars where some officer is talking with Vader, while right next to him, his CO is slowly dying and being stranggled by Vader through the Force, and the officer is terrified and desperatly trying to listen to Vader, but he can't help looking and peeking to see his CO gradually expire. Good strip.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:26 am

Madmoonie wrote:I going to agree as well is what they discribe sounds like some sort of civial matter rather than a legal one, but the problem is to find out who profit from suing Quentyn and for waht reason? You've got the Disciples who might be after, but that seems unlikely since, if they exist, they probably still havn't even heard od Quentyn. You've got the Gangs, which may be the ones but this a little more serious than that. I think that it might be one expanionist bunch who thought of a way to get a potential thorn out of their side for good. Can one sue away a Questor badge?

On a differant note, this has got to be one of my favorite strips to date. I love the fact that during the enttire conversation, Quentyn is having a life and death struggle with a multi-legged monstrousity. Reminds of the classic scene in Star Wars where some officer is talking with Vader, while right next to him, his CO is slowly dying and being stranggled by Vader through the Force, and the officer is terrified and desperatly trying to listen to Vader, but he can't help looking and peeking to see his CO gradually expire. Good strip.

From the way the people were talking after the swamp insudent, the Rac government are exteramly affraid of a war with the Gahrum. However, thinking about it, the way Ralph has RP'ed the counsel in BW, I don't think they'd hand anyone to their exicutioners even if it was a matter of national security... maybe there's going to be an expidition out side of the mist wall and they want him with them? Gods I'm pulling at staws.

SolidusRaccoon · Post by **SolidusRaccoon** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:23 am

Well it is not criminal, but civil I would say. What we have seen of the Racs laws so far seem very fair and just.

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:24 am

Oh yeah, I forget something.

I am serious.....and don't call me Shirley.

Shyal_malkes · Post by **Shyal_malkes** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:49 am

what if it's an attempt to claim Quentyn as questor of sanctuary city or something like that?

I mean Lady Rose and some of the other CoE might not want a questor or a working questor but even they (I'd assume) would be willing to fight to keep what they've got.

I 'd doubt the expansionists would be after Quentyn, it wasn't he who really exposed them, he just stumbled upon evidence he didn't even recognize and didn't want to be a part of. I doubt the gangs either, they wouldn't be easily trusted in any court decision.

oh, and moonie? I loved that scene, I also liked how he put his nose up in the air after his promition like he fully accepted being given the title and suddenly being better then everybody else. wasn't he the guy in charge when the millenium falcon finally escaped at the end? small wonder what was going through his mind.

Greatbeast · Post by **Greatbeast** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:11 am

Im suspecting that instead of him being sued, he is being given a "can't refuse" mission that is somewhat dangerous.

Maybe legally "Shang-hied" into dealing with something related to the creator of the rat king and deciples....or maybe something involving the Gragum "government" ??

Maybe even something dealing with humans ?

Sean

Shyal_malkes · Post by **Shyal_malkes** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:29 am

Ralph's got us all guessing again, for all we know this might not even involve quentyn, just the CoE.

The JAM · Post by **The JAM** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:49 am

Or Rahan might have found a way to get back at Quentyn.

Richter B. · Post by **Richter B.** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:53 am

yep that ralph sure knows how to keep us guessing....
but that is what i like about his comics
cause it keeps us on our toes and the edge of our
seats guessing.

Madmoonie · Post by **Madmoonie** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:54 am

*CLICK

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......and this goes on about all day

Mikhail Dragoslav · Post by **Mikhail Dragoslav** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:59 am

Shyal has a point. We don't know what "we" Rose is referring to. It could be her and Quentyn, the Council, or Freeman Downs as a whole.

It could be the Adjucatory confirming Quentyn as a Questor, with all the rights, duties, and powers thereof, which Rose and most of the Council would not be pleased with. But it doesn't seem like good news when you read the comic, though that could be RH's plan. That the guys in black mentioned that Rose already "lost" and said a "claim" was reviewed, implies that the Council or someone else lodged a claim with the Aducatory and lost. Could be the Council working either for (or given their history) against Quentyn's behalf. It's ambiguous.

The fact that the two newcomers mentioned that papers were filled makes me thing it wasn't the Gragum, they're not portrayed as a literate or very cultured people and wouldn't have people to do those things on their behalf.

Quentyn was already cleared of everything during the whole Gang episode, they can't bust him for that stuff again and if they're there to bring Quentyn back to Sanctuary about Rosad Beither's lab then they'd probably do it in a more low key manner. I don't think Rose and the Council would even know about it, so why bring it to their attention like this?

Chances are, if it is about Quentyn then it's probably something new that just hit the fan. Or something new to us anyway.

Greatbeast · Post by **Greatbeast** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:07 am

I just had a thought....

Maybe it gives Quentyn power over the council ?

Maxgoof · Post by **Maxgoof** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:38 am

shyal_malkes wrote:Ralph's got us all guessing again, for all we know this might not even involve quentyn, just the CoE.

"You wish to speak to me? About a matter concerning the Questor?"

"Well, to each member of the Council of Elders, actually..."

"Well, I don't know what may have brought you all the way up here from Sanctuary City, gentlemen, but won't you come in? As luck would have have it, the Questor is tending to a little job for me..."

"Oh, he is?"

This conversation makes it pretty clear that the two gentlemen brought up the title of Questor, not Lady Rose.

First of all, it's very nice to see that Lady Rose bears no ill will toward Quentyn. She seems just as fond of him now as before.

I find it odd, however, that they approach Lady Rose rather than the Adjudicator first, and call the Council together, and address them all at once. Seems like they wish to keep this quiet.

I suspect this may have something to do with the Expansionist plot Quentyn uncovered.

And what would the Council fight Sanctuary City over? Surely not damages caused by his run-in with the Royals. That had all been cleared. Unless they are trying to take Quentyn out as an obstacle to Expansionist plans.

But, if the Council is only advisory, why talk to them at all? And why separately?

Something stinks here...

Maxgoof · Post by **Maxgoof** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:42 am

Madmoonie wrote:*CLICK

Rats, no new comics...

*CLICK

Rats, no new comics...

*CLICK

Rats, no new comics...

*CLICK

Rats, no new comics...

......and this goes on about all day

I could be wrong, but if you were to make a small donation, say, $1800 to cover his tax bill, he'd drop whatever it is he is doing and put up a new comic for you within 24 hours.