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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
<B>Will this topic be deleted? Probably.. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Are you kidding? Most moderators out there seem to barely register that delete even exists. Besides, first thing I thought when I saw this thread was 'abuse! yay!' At least you care enough to comment, so somewhere in your life I must have been built up enough to disappoint. Which means that somewhere I'm having an effect.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
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First, learn to draw.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Gee, I'd love to, only I've got like a full time job that pays me money I need to love. Besides, there's a lot of badly drawn comics out there and they're not stopping any time soon. Tell you what, you provide me with evidence of your criticising 10 or more other comics whose art sucks and I'll try to find time to do what you suggest.<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
<B><P>Second, learn to actually be funny. <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Have you ever had it pointed out to you that humour is a deeply personal thing? I'm willing to bet you have because you've wisely not attempted to try and explain what you mean by 'funny'. Which is a shame because, y'know, if you're going to criticise you really ought to give advice as to how you think things could be better. But humour's a tough one so I can understand why you'd not want to take the plunge and try to convince someone that what you think is funny
should be funny to them.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
<B><P>If you follow these steps very carefully, you MIGHT end up with a good strip, like Exploitation Now, Life on Forbez, Road Waffles, Sinfest, MegaTokyo, Penny Arcade, etc.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ah, see, now we hit a theme. Can't say I read Life on Forbz, and I tried MegaTokyo and never got into it. Road Waffles could be brilliant but Eight runs out of plot too easily. Exploitation Now - even Poe admits that a lot of his stuff is just gratutious ddrool-inducing material, and again, doesn't have a running plot. Which isn't to say that I don't like it - I do, Poe's humour hits a dark mark with me. And as for Sinfest - gaaaaah! I'm sorry, but that strip no way deserves to be the cash cow it is. It's not exactly bad, it's just...not as good as its viewing figuressuggest. Plus it also relies on the device of having a scantily clad, oversexed, sex object female character.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
<B><P>The chances of such a thing happening are, of course, close to zero. Oh well. Another shitty web comic.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And another nameless soul mouthing off to someone without saying anything beyond 'Dude, you suck and I hate you'.<P>But thanks for your contribution.<P>Kitsune<P>------------------
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<B>Will this topic be deleted? Probably.. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Are you kidding? Most moderators out there seem to barely register that delete even exists. Besides, first thing I thought when I saw this thread was 'abuse! yay!' At least you care enough to comment, so somewhere in your life I must have been built up enough to disappoint. Which means that somewhere I'm having an effect.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
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First, learn to draw.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Gee, I'd love to, only I've got like a full time job that pays me money I need to love. Besides, there's a lot of badly drawn comics out there and they're not stopping any time soon. Tell you what, you provide me with evidence of your criticising 10 or more other comics whose art sucks and I'll try to find time to do what you suggest.<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
<B><P>Second, learn to actually be funny. <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Have you ever had it pointed out to you that humour is a deeply personal thing? I'm willing to bet you have because you've wisely not attempted to try and explain what you mean by 'funny'. Which is a shame because, y'know, if you're going to criticise you really ought to give advice as to how you think things could be better. But humour's a tough one so I can understand why you'd not want to take the plunge and try to convince someone that what you think is funny
should be funny to them.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
<B><P>If you follow these steps very carefully, you MIGHT end up with a good strip, like Exploitation Now, Life on Forbez, Road Waffles, Sinfest, MegaTokyo, Penny Arcade, etc.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ah, see, now we hit a theme. Can't say I read Life on Forbz, and I tried MegaTokyo and never got into it. Road Waffles could be brilliant but Eight runs out of plot too easily. Exploitation Now - even Poe admits that a lot of his stuff is just gratutious ddrool-inducing material, and again, doesn't have a running plot. Which isn't to say that I don't like it - I do, Poe's humour hits a dark mark with me. And as for Sinfest - gaaaaah! I'm sorry, but that strip no way deserves to be the cash cow it is. It's not exactly bad, it's just...not as good as its viewing figuressuggest. Plus it also relies on the device of having a scantily clad, oversexed, sex object female character.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
<B><P>The chances of such a thing happening are, of course, close to zero. Oh well. Another shitty web comic.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And another nameless soul mouthing off to someone without saying anything beyond 'Dude, you suck and I hate you'.<P>But thanks for your contribution.<P>Kitsune<P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maboo:
<B>Hey!! Don't knock it. At least it's not some "oh look at me I'm anime I'm so wonderful because I have Japanglish words and big-eyed hos in me" thing or another stick figure comic. Which so many new artists seem to be trying for. Feh. It's fricken ART FETISHISM! </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Heh. This is exactly what I've been trying to say, but with considerably more weight behind them. In truth, Kitsune's art style is one of my favorites, even if her actual line work can be muddled. Actually, it's nearly as good as early Campos, and is probably going to get better.<P>Not that this matters at all to our little friend Complex though. I really never take flamers on the intrernet seriously... I'm just too certain he's really a ten-year-old giggling hysterically over our responses, or Farina.<P><P>------------------
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<B>Hey!! Don't knock it. At least it's not some "oh look at me I'm anime I'm so wonderful because I have Japanglish words and big-eyed hos in me" thing or another stick figure comic. Which so many new artists seem to be trying for. Feh. It's fricken ART FETISHISM! </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Heh. This is exactly what I've been trying to say, but with considerably more weight behind them. In truth, Kitsune's art style is one of my favorites, even if her actual line work can be muddled. Actually, it's nearly as good as early Campos, and is probably going to get better.<P>Not that this matters at all to our little friend Complex though. I really never take flamers on the intrernet seriously... I'm just too certain he's really a ten-year-old giggling hysterically over our responses, or Farina.<P><P>------------------
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Will this topic be deleted? Probably..<P>First, learn to draw. Second, learn to actually be funny. If you follow these steps very carefully, you MIGHT end up with a good strip, like Exploitation Now, Life on Forbez, Road Waffles, Sinfest, MegaTokyo, Penny Arcade, etc.<P>The chances of such a thing happening are, of course, close to zero. Oh well. Another shitty web comic.
Hey!! Don't knock it. At least it's not some "oh look at me I'm anime I'm so wonderful because I have Japanglish words and big-eyed hos in me" thing or another stick figure comic. Which so many new artists seem to be trying for. Feh. It's fricken ART FETISHISM! I'd like to see you do as good as Selena does with her abilities. Did you even read the "About Me" page to find out that she is, in her words, "moderately disabled" and effectively one-handed? She's too hard on her art abilities, though, mind you, I think she does bloody well.<P>I consider the key strength of C.U S to be its writing and would be DAMN proud to cross over with her any day.<P>So why did you register just to say something like this? Seems a bit unnecessary.... but then, all "you suck" posts are. What about some constructive criticism? How could it be improved? What are the key problems? Et cetera.<P>Mab<P>PS: I love Life on Forbez, Megatokyo and read Sinfest, but the whole point is that you can't compare them to C.US. There is no similarity - they are very different.<p>[This message has been edited by Maboo (edited 03-22-2001).]
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kitsune76:
<B> Do you want to give the required punchline TBC or shall I?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You do it. TBC will probably want to respond in the form of hitting.<P><P>------------------
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<B> Do you want to give the required punchline TBC or shall I?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You do it. TBC will probably want to respond in the form of hitting.<P><P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheBlackCupid:
<B>I really never take flamers on the intrernet seriously... I'm just too certain he's really a ten-year-old...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>All of you took that quote but didn't take the punchline.<P>Not only is you gaydar working (i mean, seriously, how couldja write that when you know everyone is gonna jump all over ya...), TBC, so is your tenyearoldchilddar. <P>You're a sick, sick man.
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<B>I really never take flamers on the intrernet seriously... I'm just too certain he's really a ten-year-old...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>All of you took that quote but didn't take the punchline.<P>Not only is you gaydar working (i mean, seriously, how couldja write that when you know everyone is gonna jump all over ya...), TBC, so is your tenyearoldchilddar. <P>You're a sick, sick man.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by complex:
<B>Will this topic be deleted? Probably..
First, learn to draw. Second, learn to actually be funny. If you follow these steps very carefully, you MIGHT end up with a good strip, like Exploitation Now, Life on Forbez, Road Waffles, Sinfest, MegaTokyo, Penny Arcade, etc.
The chances of such a thing happening are, of course, close to zero. Oh well. Another shitty web comic.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>How come all the flamers come here? I want a flamer to come to my message board and tell me i suck because i don't have hentai or pop culture references.<P></b>
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And as for Sinfest - gaaaaah! I'm sorry, but that strip no way deserves to be the cash cow it is. It's not exactly bad, it's just...not as good as its viewing figuressuggest. Plus it also relies on the device of having a scantily clad, oversexed, sex object female character.</b><P>I thought i was alone on the over hyped of sinfest. Sure, we all miss Calvin and Hobbes, but please. The again, the art is always crisp and he makes fun of gay people. I should start inking and making more fun of ethnic groups and i too one day will be able to live on his whooping grand a month income. Then again, this is what I'm gonna do for AFD, which i don't want anyone to read.<P>(how'd i turn that into a plug?)<P>
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<B>Will this topic be deleted? Probably..
First, learn to draw. Second, learn to actually be funny. If you follow these steps very carefully, you MIGHT end up with a good strip, like Exploitation Now, Life on Forbez, Road Waffles, Sinfest, MegaTokyo, Penny Arcade, etc.
The chances of such a thing happening are, of course, close to zero. Oh well. Another shitty web comic.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>How come all the flamers come here? I want a flamer to come to my message board and tell me i suck because i don't have hentai or pop culture references.<P></b>
Her Majesty Wrote This:
And as for Sinfest - gaaaaah! I'm sorry, but that strip no way deserves to be the cash cow it is. It's not exactly bad, it's just...not as good as its viewing figuressuggest. Plus it also relies on the device of having a scantily clad, oversexed, sex object female character.</b><P>I thought i was alone on the over hyped of sinfest. Sure, we all miss Calvin and Hobbes, but please. The again, the art is always crisp and he makes fun of gay people. I should start inking and making more fun of ethnic groups and i too one day will be able to live on his whooping grand a month income. Then again, this is what I'm gonna do for AFD, which i don't want anyone to read.<P>(how'd i turn that into a plug?)<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stpaulcoffee:
<B> Me neither. That's why I always ignore YOU! HAh! I am so funny! And you are gay. <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Do you want to give the required punchline TBC or shall I?<P>Kitsune
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<B> Me neither. That's why I always ignore YOU! HAh! I am so funny! And you are gay. <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Do you want to give the required punchline TBC or shall I?<P>Kitsune
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheBlackCupid:
<B>I really never take flamers on the intrernet seriously...
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Me neither. That's why I always ignore YOU! HAh! I am so funny! And you are gay. <P>------------------
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<B>I really never take flamers on the intrernet seriously...
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Me neither. That's why I always ignore YOU! HAh! I am so funny! And you are gay. <P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everything Mike:
<B> Not only is you gaydar working (i mean, seriously, how couldja write that when you know everyone is gonna jump all over ya...), TBC, so is your tenyearoldchilddar. <P>You're a sick, sick man. <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Heh heh heh!<P>"Jump all over ya..."<P>Anyway, speaking of my gaydar, you're still beeping, dude.
<B> Not only is you gaydar working (i mean, seriously, how couldja write that when you know everyone is gonna jump all over ya...), TBC, so is your tenyearoldchilddar. <P>You're a sick, sick man. <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Heh heh heh!<P>"Jump all over ya..."<P>Anyway, speaking of my gaydar, you're still beeping, dude.
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You wish. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>I think TBC/Kits Adventures should have it's own site on keenspace. Honestly. You're funny. Well, almost, but it's the thought that counts. When's my appearence?<P>Also, let's see some more pics of both of ya!<P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everything Mike:
<B>You wish. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>I think TBC/Kits Adventures should have it's own site on keenspace. Honestly. You're funny. Well, almost, but it's the thought that counts. When's my appearence?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>We're thinking about it.<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>Kitsune
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<B>You wish. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>I think TBC/Kits Adventures should have it's own site on keenspace. Honestly. You're funny. Well, almost, but it's the thought that counts. When's my appearence?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>We're thinking about it.<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>Kitsune
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Asha:
<B>If you do, then you DAMN well better give me credit. I want to see: "This is all the idea of ASHA, or lord and saviour. It's all thanks to HER that this was even PONDERED. We love and worship her' in BIG, BOLD LETTERS ACROSS THE FRONT PAGE.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You want us to put all that just if we cameo Mike?<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>Seriously, if I do start drawing this, you'll get the proper credit Asha.<P>Kitsune
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<B>If you do, then you DAMN well better give me credit. I want to see: "This is all the idea of ASHA, or lord and saviour. It's all thanks to HER that this was even PONDERED. We love and worship her' in BIG, BOLD LETTERS ACROSS THE FRONT PAGE.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You want us to put all that just if we cameo Mike?<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>Seriously, if I do start drawing this, you'll get the proper credit Asha.<P>Kitsune
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At first I thought Complex's post was a joke! It's obvious he's missing something, here. I happen to like your style, Kits. Your sense of humour is fantastic and you can pinpoint the many absurdities in our society so easily (at least, it appears effortless...). Your art is original and consistent, with easily identifiable characters who actually have personalities--try to find professional cartoonists who can boast that.<P>Well, in a nutshell, Complex is on crack. And your response to him deserves a standing ovation.
Kitsune is living proof that you don't need
to have a "good" drawing ability to make a
fine comic, and I find that inspirational.<P>(I actively despise "Cathy", which does more
to degrade women than all the porn on earth.
Perhaps she could get Roberta Gregory to do
the artwork! I cannot abide "Yubble Gubbles": they ain't cute.)<P>Is StPaulCoffee your antimatter, TBC, your
"evil Joyce" as it were?<P>If you want, I could put out a contract with
one of the South Side Studs to "put some cream in his coffee" when he is helpless!
*Yeeeeee hee hee heeeeeee!*
to have a "good" drawing ability to make a
fine comic, and I find that inspirational.<P>(I actively despise "Cathy", which does more
to degrade women than all the porn on earth.
Perhaps she could get Roberta Gregory to do
the artwork! I cannot abide "Yubble Gubbles": they ain't cute.)<P>Is StPaulCoffee your antimatter, TBC, your
"evil Joyce" as it were?<P>If you want, I could put out a contract with
one of the South Side Studs to "put some cream in his coffee" when he is helpless!
*Yeeeeee hee hee heeeeeee!*