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With a 1,000+ comic book page archive, ChrusherComix has been my sketchbook with a storyline for years. I started it as a 14-year old in 1988 (making me, I guess, one of the older webcomickers), but it was not debuted until 2005 when I discovered how to use ComicGenesis. It now has 98% of the back-issue archive up, and within the next few months, the little remaining will be uploaded and the newest chapter of the saga will begin (I am on a temporary hiatus because I currently have a couple of paying art project unrelated to my webcomics, and those take priority over "free comics" something that I'm sure that you're all far too familiar with).

It parodies people I know (myself, friends, family, and enemies) in fictional scenarios and paired along with fictional people. I must warn you, however... though it starts fairly harmlessly, it has mature content, including brief nudity, toilet humor, and just plain disgusting things that may offend some, may make others laugh hysterically. So far, although it has been up online for a full year, it has no audience outside of my friends and family who already love it to no end. Hence I found this thread and come here to try and get an actual webcomic audience amongst fellow webcomickers. Though the art starts kinda' sloppy, (and is essentially divided into three sections; My teen/high school years, my immature adult/twenties, and forthcoming - my 100% new comic aimed at a broader audience), I'm rather proud of the improvements that I've made through the years, but the best is yet to come (sometime between now and the next few months). Enjoy!

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I do totally love it when people have massive archives of work going back to their teenage years like this, I have to admit. But I can't really get into the comics--something about your art style turns me off. I think it's the uncomfortable space it occupies between cartooniness and realism--Towner is better in my book because it goes much more in the cartoony direction, making the art look more consistent from panel to panel. In either style, though, the line work is kind of off.

If you plan to do more with Chrusher--or with Towner, for that matter--take some life drawing classes or study an anatomy book or two--it'll help your art get a lot cleaner and make it look better whether you go in a more realistic or a more cartoony direction.

I do dig Towner a lot though--very C&H-like, very enjoyable. Are you doing more of this?
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I do totally love it when people have massive archives of work going back to their teenage years like this, I have to admit.
Thanks. Actually, I wished that more webcomics do this. When I see webcomics with just a few months or a couple of years in the archive, I usually don't bother looking much. I want to see a large amount of work to show someone is serious about their craft. It took me one full year to upload all of those, just to prepare the stage for my new comic.
But I can't really get into the comics--something about your art style turns me off. I think it's the uncomfortable space it occupies between cartooniness and realism--
Hmm... you're not much of a Todd McFarlane fan then? He was probably the biggest influence on my art style, and countless people have told me that his influence on my Chrusher comic is obvious. His work in Amazing Spider-Man forever changed my drawing and inking style. In general, I aim for an American-comic-book look with Chrusher, though when I am going for obvious goofy stuff, I go cartoony. Quite frankly, Chrusher has been a half-way between real and cartoony on purpose, though when I make the new storyline, it will go away from cartoony and go for ultra-realistic. Towner is purposefully cartoony, ala C&H.
Towner is better in my book because it goes much more in the cartoony direction, making the art look more consistent from panel to panel.
Thanks. I drew most of them between 1997-1999. Only the greenhouse ads are newer. I haven't drawn it much since a handful of syndicates passed on it several years back. I plan to make a Towner book or two, because quite frankly I hate the limited space for a newspaper comic strip. I started one, and I'll get doing it nmore when I have more time. Unfortunately, I've been doing comics for years, and it was passable when I was single, but since getting married, I need to make money from my work for a change. Haha.
In either style, though, the line work is kind of off.
Line work? You mean the inking or the borders? I consider my inkwork a strength of mine, but admittedly, borders are my least-favorite part of drawing comics. Plotting, penciling, inking, coloring... thats what I like best. Perhaps I don't send enough time on them.
If you plan to do more with Chrusher--or with Towner, for that matter--take some life drawing classes or study an anatomy book or two--it'll help your art get a lot cleaner and make it look better whether you go in a more realistic or a more cartoony direction.
Hmm... that's the 1st time I ever heard that in 15+ years. What comics were you looking at? My pre-1992 Chrusher comics? I was just a teenager then. I see no anatomy problems in most of my 1994-up comics, except for small periods where I got purposefully sloppy just to draw quick, humorous storylines for my friend's amusement and not for the art itself, but then in the 1998-and-up areas, I go back to detailed work. Not sure what you mean about the anatomy stuff. maybe you just didn't read my newer, cleaner stuff. I have tha problem because my archive is 1,000+ and most of the early stuff isn't all that great artistically.
I do dig Towner a lot though--very C&H-like, very enjoyable. Are you doing more of this?
I have many newer, cleaner Towners that I didn't upload yet, and I plan to do more when I have the time. Most of those are older and not as good, in my book... I just put them up first because they were older and I like to keep a chronological order to it if I can. Right now, I'm working on a paying flash animation project. But every May I do ads for my family business, and for the past six or seven years, new Towners have all been flower ads.

But thanks for your advice. I'd love to read even more people's opinions. :)
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<a href="http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/200604 ... 16.html</a> and <a href="http://chrusher.comicgenesis.com/">the bumper image here</a> show what I'm talking about with the linework. In the Towner comic (which is older, I guess) all of the figures have the exact same line weight as the cars, and even as the background speed lines. There are some variations--the trees and the wheels in particular--but for the most part, it makes the figures look more like drawings, less like *cartoons*. On the Chrusher image, there's some more varied stuff--breast lines, neck shadows, and those kinds of things--which does make it look better, but you also have all of these little crosshatched shadows to indicate muscles and shadows, and the line width on them is pretty similar to the contour lines of the bodies themselves. So it makes the image look too busy (to my eyes, anyway) and kind of flat as well. <a href="http://chrusher.comicgenesis.com/d/2006 ... l">This</a> as well. The figures are also really stiff and vertical in a lot of these, which makes the art look less clean. <a href="http://chrusher.comicgenesis.com/d/20061021.html">This one</a> I like a lot more, since it's got fun poses and dramatic shadows (plus driving old people, a favorite archetype.)

My problems with the art may actually come down to my not liking McFarlane much, since I have similar problems with his art--too much damn fiddly shading! (I am not really one to talk, but I try to keep figures clean and shaded stuff in the background, so it naturally recedes and the figures pop forward--I have no idea how successful I even am yet.) But I basically like a lot of this, and again--damn, comics going back to 1988! I agree with you about the appeal of huge archives, but I wouldn't really want to do that with my own stuff--I have comics going back to fifth grade, but I don't really want to spend a bunch of time scanning them in--too embarassing for me, plus a lot of it is still at my parent's house. Maybe I'll put it up in a bonus art section someday when I have infinite time by the scanner.
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Ah, see you don't like McFarlane which explains why you feel uncomfortable with my inking style. He, Michael Turner, Art Adams, and the Jim Lee/Scott Williams team were my biggest influences. Surprised that you don't care for inking on that women bumper page... as I was heavily influenced by Mike Turner there, because he draws the babes so well. And, I drew them BEFORE I knew how to digitally color, before I had a PC back in 1999. back then, I concentrated more on my ink detail. Now, I tend to focus more on line depth. For example...

The 1st half of http://chrusher.comicgenesis.com/d/20061027.html is actually the newest Chrusher art I did, until Cow answers the doorbell. It was an added scene because nobody would get the punchline of the book without it... they don't know the real guy that's based after like my friends and I do. I used more line depth in that one, IMO, as it speeds up the coloring process, but, IMO, its more cheating to shade that way. Adobe has made me a lazier artist, as the shading that I used to do with ink, I now do with color. However... The 2nd half of the page I drew with no pencils, all ink, on lined paper, and with a couple of beers with me; as I was drawing it for and about my friends while we were camping out, so the art is actually admittedly quite crappy on the 2nd half. Only put up to advance the storyline, though the art in that latter half is kind of embarassing, IMO.

My newest Chrusher art is found between:
http://chrusher.comicgenesis.com/d/19980101.html through
http://chrusher.comicgenesis.com/d/20000101.html. A few sloppy pages are in there, but its mostly clean. Mostly on lined paper, though.

But, older samples of my 1st attempt at pro-style inks are found from http://chrusher.comicgenesis.com/d/19941228.html here through http://chrusher.comicgenesis.com/d/19950301.html here. For the most part, I don't get too cartoony in them, other than a few parts. Dunno, just my style I guess. I feel bad that some people don't care for it. Strange to me, that the only comments I've received so far that people don't dig my style. Heh, strange because I consider that a strength of my work. I guess its my fault for putting half-@$$ed art with good art... you have 1,000 comics and someone will look at a couple of quicky-pages and think your whle comic is like that.

Towner... well... truthfully, a good chunk of my newer/better examples are not on the site... I haven't scanned them yet. One reason is my scanner is barely bigger than paper-sized, and most of my newer Towners are on large bristol board, so I have to scan and resize and piece together, then color if wanted... a headache, but it'll get done soon... hopefully. When I have the time after my paying project. But a few of my newer/cleaner ones are up:
http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/20051225.html
http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/20051031.html
http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/20060512.html
http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/20060331.html
http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/20060525.html
http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/20060512.html
http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/20060514.html
and my newest one, just an ad that I for my family's business, here:
http://towner.comicgenesis.com/d/20060504.html

My mom and my wife both prefer Towner more too. I was discouraged by Towner when syndicates gave it a pass, and then after that I concentrated on my children's book, Tee & Wee, and after that, putting all my old Chrushers and Towners on ComicGenesis. in fact, I have almost zero "new" comics up. Probably 99.9% of that was drawn between 1988-1999. Perhaps I shuld have waited until I draw new comics before introducing them here.

I hope others look and comment or critique too. I like constructive critisizm, or compliments, haha.... as all webcartoonists know, if we don't do it for pay, we do it for compliments and exposure.
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Erm, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Google ads prohibited in Comicgenesis?

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Humbug wrote:Erm, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Google ads prohibited in Comicgenesis?
They are? I never knew this. If they are, I'll remove them. :o

Also, thanks for the comments. :-?
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Humbug wrote:Yea, it's right here in the faq.

http://cgwiki.comicgenesis.com/index.ph ... _Questions
Ah, thank you. Hmm... I never knew this. Had them for almost a year and nobody said anything. I guess I'll have to remove them next update. They do little good anyway... a failed experiment that made a whopping $0.36 in almost a year while also being an eyesore! Yeah!

Hmm... I wonder if the Amazon ads are also forbidden... it doesn't mention them, just Google. or are they considered a competitor to ComicGenesis's ad system?

Well, so far, two people have responded to my 1,000+ online comics. The talley is:

1. I need to change my anatomy and inking style, and maybe take drawing classes (1st time in my life that I've ever heard that, haha!).
2. I have forbidden Google ads.

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A little amazing to me (and my good friends who have eagerly read my comics for over a decade) that these two things are the only things that people on this site take from my 1,000+ comic samples dating back over 18 years! :lol: XD :ick:

I guess more time is needed perhaps. Or debut my new ones sooner than anticipated. 8-)
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There seems to be a lull in the ammount of comments people are dispensing these days. Some day it'll turn around, but until then, don't take it personally.

And yes, Amazon ads are also forbidden. It's hard to police such a thing, but when it comes to our attention, you gotta take it down. Sorry.
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There seems to be a lull in the ammount of comments people are dispensing these days. Some day it'll turn around, but until then, don't take it personally.
Thanks. I hope people will read and like the humor. It has puzzled me for quite some time that my friends love Chrusher and nobody else seems to think anything about it, so sometimes it makes me wonder if I've wasted my time on them. I get more positive responses from Towner, even though I have far less time in them. Oh well, I hope they pick up. :)
And yes, Amazon ads are also forbidden. It's hard to police such a thing, but when it comes to our attention, you gotta take it down. Sorry.
OK, Will do on my next update (probably within a week... I'm busy doing an unrelated animation job at the moment). Like I said... I never knew they were a no-no, and its no biggie because I haven't been making anything off of them anyway. :roll: Thanks. Still, an oddity for me, is that Humbug there said nothing at all except that I had Google ads. Nice. :shifty:
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