Trial of the [probably small period of time]!

Spriteville, USA · Post by **Spriteville, USA** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:49 am

Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

I say guilty (duh) my biggest reasons are despite a lack of full on evidence, the defense is not so much defending Jackson as they are trying to descredit the prosecution. It's not "Our client is not guilty" as "The defense are a bunch of lying scumbags". Prove to me that Jackson is NOT a boy hungry pedeophile and maybe I'll consider his innocence.

He's should be locked away for good.

Oh and fun note, apparently his max sentence is 21 years. That's 2.1 years for each child he has molested. Good to know that a molested child is only worth 2.1 years, I'd hate to think our courts are unfair.

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Kris X · Post by **Kris X** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:52 am

It's all a publicity stunt, I tell you.

Post by **Mercury Hat** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:54 am

People care about this

?

Dotty · Post by **Dotty** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:56 am

Spriteville, USA wrote:Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

I say guilty (duh) my biggest reasons are despite a lack of full on evidence, the defense is not so much defending Jackson as they are trying to descredit the prosecution. It's not "Our client is not guilty" as "The defense are a bunch of lying scumbags". Prove to me that Jackson is NOT a boy hungry pedeophile and maybe I'll consider his innocence.

He's should be locked away for good.

Oh and fun note, apparently his max sentence is 21 years. That's 2.1 years for each child he has molested. Good to know that a molested child is only worth 2.1 years, I'd hate to think our courts are unfair.

Ugliest Web Page Online Right Now BBC coverage of Jackson Trial

I'll say not guilty, just because I've yet to see any hard evidence that he DID do it. Just "HE DID IT!" claims from a woman who's claimed imprisonment twice before. She's not really a very believable client.

If he is guilty though, 21 years seems rather...um...weak?

TheGoobla · Post by **TheGoobla** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:03 am

Spriteville, USA wrote:Prove to me that Jackson is NOT a boy hungry pedeophile and maybe I'll consider his innocence.

Unfortunately there is something called the burden of proof. It is incumbent upon the prosecution to prove Jackson's guilt as they have made the claim. Innocent until proven guilty, my dear. A quaint concept to some, but one which must be upheld.

Mercury Hat wrote:People care about this ?

Seconded. You'd think the trial of the decade would pertain to something more important, like that of a war criminal or despot.

Spriteville, USA · Post by **Spriteville, USA** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:06 am

Mercury Hat wrote:People care about this ?

I care enough in that if he did actually do it, I hope he's murdered in jail for what he's done.

If he is actually innocent, he's still creepy as all hell, but he's entitled to live his life as he please.

The subject matter is what gets me more, not the fact it's a washed up pop star.

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Changed thread name due to this point.

TheGoobla wrote:Seconded. You'd think the trial of the decade would pertain to something more important, like that of a war criminal or despot.

Post by **Mercury Hat** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:11 am

Yeah I mean pedophiles are scum of the Earth but as to how much I care about Michael Jackson... erg. So if he's a pedo, he can rot in hell with all the others, but I don't care about it just because it's Jackson.

Jim North · Post by **Jim North** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:14 am

There are plenty of other multiple sex offenders out there (unfortunately). Why not create a thread for every single one if it's not just about a washed up pop star?

EDIT: Blast you for posting while I'm writing!

Faceless · Post by **Faceless** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:18 am

A interview Michael Jackson had a while back...

Interviewer: Have you ever had any plastic surgery?
M. Jackson: No, never, I've only ever had two small operations on my nose so I can breathe better.

Keep that in mind, as well as his "Never-Neverland" ranch. The guy in my opinion lives in his own little world.

Dotty · Post by **Dotty** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:55 am

Faceless wrote:A interview Michael Jackson had a while back...

Interviewer: Have you ever had any plastic surgery?
M. Jackson: No, never, I've only ever had two small operations on my nose so I can breathe better.

Keep that in mind, as well as his "Never-Neverland" ranch. The guy in my opinion lives in his own little world.

That's awesome, and I'm glad for him...provided he isn't molesting children along the way :p

Dr Legostar · Post by **Dr Legostar** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:01 am

Herein lies the problem. If he's guilty, we're going to hear nonstop about how guilty he is and his imprissonment and all that other stuff. If he's not guilty then we get to hear from the other side about how there was no justice and he's a child molestor and should be strung up. Either way, WE as a people, lose. It's really just a song and dance now.

Rkolter · Post by **Rkolter** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:24 am

If I were to obey the call of the masses to make a sudden decision, I'd say he was guilty and we should stone him.

From a practical standpoint, there is ample evidence he lives in his own twisted, fucked up fantasy world (jesus-juice in a coke can, the neverland ranch, thinking it's ok to sleep platonically with children you invite to play at your ranch, swearing he's never had plastic surgery despite documented bills and receipts, etcetera).

It's not a crime to be really, really weird though. And there isn't a lot of evidence that he actually is a pedophile. Unless they come up with something tangible, he's innocent until proven guilty.

And I do care about it; not enough to watch in rapture, but depending on what he's convicted on (or not convicted on despite of), it could have ramifications on other trials of pedophiles. That, and he's a cultural icon (if not to me, you, us... then to literally millions worldwide), and from that perspective, it'll be interesting to watch how events unfold and how those hordes of people who really care about him react to it.

Terotrous · Post by **Terotrous** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:38 am

There is however a lot of evidence to suggest that the accuser is a lying scumbag, though. She had previous lawsuits against Jay Leno and some clothing store, I think. She's obviously just looking for MJ to pay her off.

I mean, there's something to be said when you go after the easiest possible target. I mean, everyone KNOWS he's gonna pay her, I'm sure she does too.

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:41 am

I've seen no evidence he's guilty of molesting this kid, which is the one he's on trial for. I've seen evidence the kid's mom is a money-grubbing sue-them-all.

But yeah, the guy is freaky.

Ferguson · Post by **Ferguson** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:46 am

I don't know if he's guilty or not (my personal suspiciousness says he is) but he's been accused of this so often, and is soooo creepy, why would any parent let their child near his house? That's what I don't get.

Coincidentally, I did an MJ joke today.

Rkolter · Post by **Rkolter** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:58 am

Now now,

The truth is, there's no evidence that suggests directly that she did extort money. If there had been, she'd be in jail. She could actually have had a string of horrible luck in her life and had to sue over it. And if you're going to sue, it makes sense to sue for big bucks because you -know- they'll settle for less, rather than sue for what you need and then have to fight them through the whole court system.

I'm not saying that's the case... just that if you're not willing to directly classify Michael as a child molester, you can't classify the mother of this kid as a sue-happy bitch.

Alaina · Post by **Alaina** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:09 am

What's creepy are his supporters. Many actually believe he is Jesus Christ

VileTerror · Post by **VileTerror** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:56 am

Can't we just wish Michael were dead without getting the trial or fiddling involved?

Pimpette · Post by **Pimpette** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:10 am

VileTerror wrote:Can't we just wish Michael were dead without getting the trial or fiddling involved?

Not publicly.

JexKerome · Post by **JexKerome** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:51 am

Until I see him declared guilty, I'll consider him innocent.

The same goes for O.J. Simpson. Neither of them got a fair trial thanks to the media.

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