Catgirl drama! -- Split from naked thread (NSFW)

[JessicaRaven]

yes I liked that picture it was an awesome pose I wanted to use the same pose for my chara

[Rickford]

yes I liked that picture it was an awesome pose I wanted to use the same pose for my chara

Trace.

The word is trace.

Nice work on the colouring an' all, but if you're going to copy someone elses work, at least make a mention of the original artist. Otherwise what you're doing is plagiarism .

[JessicaRaven]

no, I didnt trace, but I'm sure I wont convince you otherwise

[[AlmightyPyro]]

I think the tracing Idea came from the fact that it's, one, exactly like that original, small details and all, and two, because the lining is very light and uneven just like your hand was following a path, not creating it.

And you can use full words here. Character, is not a hard word.

[Keffria]

Laying your image over the original as in the attached image (there's no way I'm gonna get busted for posting this crap in my own photobucket account) reveals an uncanny similarity between the original lineart and your own. The fact is that it's EXCEEDINGLY difficult to copy a picture so well. It's even harder to believe you actually drew it because your lineart is, frankly, crap; generally, people who can draw in a more realistic style are capable of inking their pictures.

Seriously, man, stop trying to pass other people's art off as your own. That goes for your comic, too.

[JessicaRaven]

yes I know, using "chara" instead of character has become a bad habit for me (thank IRC for that)


as for my comic, I do tend to use a library of stock pose recourses, but I hardly consider that "tracing" if you have a problem with that, then that's just it, your problem

[[AlmightyPyro]]

Unless any of the creators of the original art finds out, then it's your problem.

[Rickford]

as for my comic, I do tend to use a library of stock pose recourses, but I hardly consider that "tracing" if you have a problem with that, then that's just it, your problem

Well, I haven't read your comic, but if you "use a library of stock pose recourses" in the same way that you "used the same pose" for the character there, then in fact it is not our problem. It is (I'm fairly certain) breaking the user agreement signed with comicgenesis, and is therefore eventually going to be your problem, and you will be removed.

[Keffria]

There's a good emoticon for the direction this discussion is taking:



(Which I stole from this guy -- and notice how I give him due credit.)

[Mercury Hat]

The source of "stock poses" is the crux of the issue here.

Nobody faults Darick Robertson for using photos he took himself as basic reference for Transmetropolitan: http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/ ... 101230.cfm

But plenty of people have issues with Greg Land's liberal use of copyrighted images for his work. http://remix17.livejournal.com/12070.html

[The Mortician]

I feel real bad for the forumites who gets stuck making you and receiving secret santa art from you, Jessicaraven.

[JessicaRaven]

the pose libraries I use are for example stock poses collected FOR THE PURPOSE of basing drawings off of, as such they are usually considered (for the most part) fair use for that purpose

[Guildmaster Van]

You've awoken a sleeping giant.

[[AlmightyPyro]]

OH GOD NO!

[Kisai]

the pose libraries I use are for example stock poses collected FOR THE PURPOSE of basing drawings off of, as such they are usually considered (for the most part) fair use for that purpose

Please then, scan and post the actual reference image, maybe we might catch two people tracing instead?

You are digging yourself a hole here. I like to think that people are smart enough that if they are going to do evil, that they won't be caught. However as my time working in various customer support departments has proven, people make shit up to cover their incompetance or not wanting to take responsiblity for their actions.

Just admit that you traced it and tell us who and where it was traced from. You should also do the same for your comic, otherwise you are going to rip off the wrong person and that person will come with an army of lawyers.

SEE HERE
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

6) "If I make up my own stories, but base them on another work, my new work belongs to me."
False. U.S. Copyright law is quite explicit that the making of what are called "derivative works" -- works based or derived from another copyrighted work -- is the exclusive province of the owner of the original work. This is true even though the making of these new works is a highly creative process. If you write a story using settings or characters from somebody else's work, you need that author's permission.

[JessicaRaven]

reread my post, I said that I used that pose (however did not trace) from that image for that particular picture I posted, I found the image via Google Image Search,

I use stock pose libraries for my comic

[Turnsky]

I use stock pose libraries for my comic

i use the mind's eye for my posing needs.

[Carlin]

So am I the only one thinking "less drama, more boobies"?

..ok fine.. and wang for the ladies.

[Stinkywigfiddle]

And some wang for the men who are interested.

And boobs for some of the ladies who are interested

[Risky]

Meh. It was a hot naked chick. I liked the differences between the images.


It's a bit rude to follow up any disputes about the copyright with extremely unflattering critique on her comic. It scares away the naked.