A pressy for God of Tarot!

Spriteville, USA · Post by **Spriteville, USA** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:31 am

Pimpette wrote: But...
I like my boobs.

We all like your boobs too pimpette.

How's that for being shady? =]

Protectmyballs · Post by **Protectmyballs** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:31 am

The shadiness lies in the fact that I wanted to say it and you beat me to it.

Spriteville, USA · Post by **Spriteville, USA** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:51 am

protectmyballs wrote:The shadiness lies in the fact that I wanted to say it and you beat me to it.

As they say, birds of the feather get identical looking restraining orders! =]

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:01 am

godoftarot wrote: -Try shaving your legs or under your arms all the time. Or getting various parts of your body waxed.

Who says I don't? And you don't need to shave your underarms every second day of the life, do you?

Besides, a little bit of scruff is sexy. If women are unfortunate enough to have any hair on our faces, we're ugly.

FUN FACT: Most of women hate when their man has stubble, because it scratchs.

If women are unfortunate enough to have any hair on our faces, we're ugly.

But most of women don't.

-We have more variety in clothing because you boys want us to look good all the damn time. Can't do that if all we wear is jeans and t-shirts. (Unless you're like me, in a big ol' pair of men's cargo pants. Screw dressing up)

Does that mean that women don't care what their man looks like? And I said that women are allowed to wear trousers while men aren't allowed to wear skirts. If the only reason for this kind of discrimination is what you just said, then women would be limited to skirts because they mostly look sexier on women than trousers.
But it's all besides the point. Point is: Women have more variousity in clothing. Nowadays, men want to look good too. But we're limited to boring jackets and trousers.

-I dunno about army service in the U.S. right now. There hasn't been a draft in a long time, but it could be reinstated. And while women are lucky enough not to be drafted, that kinda stems back to the barbaric times when women only cooked and cleaned and stuff. We weren't always allowed to go to war.

Oh, god, now you're heavily exagerating. So, in order to fix this barbaric discrimination, why don't we instate an army for women too? Why does every paragraph of yours need to have a "but...", even when you admitt I'm right?

-Again, men have the intiative because so much of the world, even the good ol' U.S. hasn't shaken that women as inferior mentality to one extent or another. It wasn't that long ago that taking the intiative made a woman a slut. And in a lot of places even here it still does.

FUN FACT: Institution of male iniciative is still on only because women want it to. Do you know how many women will directly say that dating iniciative is something a man should have, that woman taking initiative is rude, unfemimine, or some other excuse? Do you suggest that women themselves think that they are mentally inferior? I don't think so, it's just an excuse to be lazy. Taking iniciative takes energy and guts, and anywone would let someone else have that burden. It's just that, because of stupid historical occurencies, we males can't, while you females can.

Got, note, and this is very important: I am not trying to prove that men have harder time than women. I am not trying to put down women, to say that their troubles are nothing compared to women's. Nothing the likes of that is stated in my post.
So then, why do you need to go and contradict every single statement I make? It seems like you want to say that men have easy time, that they have no problem in life, actually, that every problem they have, women have it ten times harder... What's the point with it? What are you trying to prove?

Godoftarot · Post by **Godoftarot** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:15 am

What are you trying to prove? My point is that all of yours have counterpoints. Believe me, not everyone feels the way you do. There are still plenty of men who think a woman's place is in the home, docile, sweet, and obedient. Especially those with more tradtional values and right now my country is being run by that sort of people. Plenty of people who still think that women don't belong in war, that women shouldn't be taking the intiative in relationships. And not all those people are women, plenty of them are men too. I mean, heck, there are whole countries where a woman talking to a man can get her killed by her own family members. If you're lucky enough to not live in one of those countries, great. But the whole world isn't forward thinking. And those parts that are haven't been that way for long.
It's great that you think women are equal to men, but a lot of things are the way they are because others don't agree. Even subconciously.

Alaina · Post by **Alaina** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:28 am

I'd rather be a guy, just because I really hate boobs and periods. They're so inconvenient. Personally, I think the woman's body is as ugly as Hitler's soul, but a few people can carry it off well.

In contrast, GoT, men are also socially restricted. I mean, can every guy buy an easy bake oven without looking like a "pussy" to his friends? Not even close. Men have the sterotype of having to be masculine (an effete man can often be accused of homosexuality). If a guy said to his friends that he was going to take up cross-stitching and yoga, how many of them would understand?

LAGtheNoggin · Post by **LAGtheNoggin** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:47 am

As an aside, is it me or are there more male to female transvestites than female to male? Just, ya'know, something you notice on a rainy day...

mcDuffies wrote:-Army service. We still have regular army service, something that I'll have to get done when get out of uni. I don't look forward to wasting almost a year of my life on being yelled at by someone who got his position and all his education by nodding and agreeing with superiors. And, in a country like this, with all these big and little wars...

Ouch, I forgot about that. That's bad luck. Serbia doesn't have the 'you go to University, you don't have to serve' rule I guess. Do you at least get a shorter term?

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:47 am

godoftarot wrote:What are you trying to prove? My point is that all of yours have counterpoints.

I was talking about disadvantages of being man, and for every and each one of them, you tried to prove that either women have the same problem but much worse, or it's men's fault in the first place. You just won't agree that men got the rear end in some parts of the bargain.

Believe me, not everyone feels the way you do. There are still plenty of men who think a woman's place is in the home, docile, sweet, and obedient. Especially those with more tradtional values and right now my country is being run by that sort of people. Plenty of people who still think that women don't belong in war, that women shouldn't be taking the intiative in relationships. And not all those people are women, plenty of them are men too. I mean, heck, there are whole countries where a woman talking to a man can get her killed by her own family members. If you're lucky enough to not live in one of those countries, great. But the whole world isn't forward thinking. And those parts that are haven't been that way for long.
It's great that you think women are equal to men, but a lot of things are the way they are because others don't agree. Even subconciously.

Yes, I'm aware of that. I live in a land where percent of such people is much higher than where you life. I'm also aware that last year, a girl was killed by her own father in Albania because she was supposedly not a virgin when she was married. At the end, it turned out that she was a virgin but her groom didn't have enough knowledge to make a difference.
But that doesn't adress any of the points I made. I was talking about the objective state of things, not about whose blame it is. Limited male fashion or iniciative on men's back, may be a product of sexual discrimination but that doesn't concern me because I am not discriminating anybody and I still have to cope with them. Do I have to, every time I'm trying to gather my guts to ask a girl out, repeat to myself: "Well, hey, after all, it's my own fault, since we men are discriminating women"?

Zhan_Dvega · Post by **Zhan_Dvega** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:26 am

Well, I'm overcoming the 'limited male fashion' by learning to make my own clothes.

(Also, just as a note, yes, I did get made fun of for buying a sewing machine and do every time it's mentioned that I'm learning to sew...

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Post by **Mercury Hat** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:29 am

Zhan_Dvega wrote:Well, I'm overcoming the 'limited male fashion' by learning to make my own clothes.

(Also, just as a note, yes, I did get made fun of for buying a sewing machine and do every time it's mentioned that I'm learning to sew... )

But you'll be the one who's laughing when all their shirt buttons pop off or they rip their pants and they have no way to fix it! MWAHAHA.

Godoftarot · Post by **Godoftarot** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:06 am

Zhan_Dvega wrote:Well, I'm overcoming the 'limited male fashion' by learning to make my own clothes.

(Also, just as a note, yes, I did get made fun of for buying a sewing machine and do every time it's mentioned that I'm learning to sew... )

Hey, sewing is fun. It's relaxing. And making your own clothes is worlds cheaper than buying 'em.
Guys clothes are getting more fashionable though. Like those hoodies with thumbholes. And I personally think my cargo pants are pretty damn stylish. They're camoflauge. ^^
Actually, men's clothing can be really fashionable...ever seen a guy walk down the runway? Although personally, boys, have you seen some of the things girls wear? Seriously, are you that torn up that you don't have sweatpants with "Baby Girl" written on the ass?
Men's clothes are nice. They're comfy. They're not made to cling to you like a balloon that you rubbed on your cat. The problem with men isn't the clothes. The problem is that most men don't know how to put together an outfit.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:14 am

godoftarot wrote: Seriously, are you that torn up that you don't have sweatpants with "Baby Girl" written on the ass?

I almost got a pair shorts like that just to make people uncomfortable at the gym. But I decided it wasn't worth the money. I think those are called cheer shorts.

Protectmyballs · Post by **Protectmyballs** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:05 pm

They're called "I want guys to look at my ass" pants

Godoftarot · Post by **Godoftarot** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:54 pm

protectmyballs wrote:They're called "I want guys to look at my ass" pants

Exactly!!!
Lots of girls wear clothing meant to get the attention of guys. I actually have a pair of sweatpants that say "Back Off!" on the ass. I'm not generally too fond of the whole words on the butt thing, but those particular words fit me rather well.
Of course, if guys want to run around in tube tops and mini-skirts, I ain't gonna stop ya. But really, women don't have more variety so much as less material.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:05 pm

protectmyballs wrote:They're called "I want guys to look at my ass" pants

It's a cheap trick to get people to look at your ass. If there's writing on something, I'm naturally gonna try to read what it says.

Zhan_Dvega · Post by **Zhan_Dvega** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:56 pm

What really ticks me off are girls who wear shirts with writing on the chest, and then get mad at you for looking at their chest

Especially this one girl, who I swear, had an entire friggin' essay written on her shirt.

Godoftarot · Post by **Godoftarot** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:04 pm

Zhan_Dvega wrote:What really ticks me off are girls who wear shirts with writing on the chest, and then get mad at you for looking at their chest

Especially this one girl, who I swear, had an entire friggin' essay written on her shirt.

From what I understand, the only assets I have worth staring at are my breasts. I've kinda come to the conclusion that if guys are gonna stare at me, that's probably what they'll be looking at. I wear a lot of shirts with things written on them. I do believe the point of shirts with things written on them is to be read.
So...I don't think girls should be getting mad about that. It can be easily avoided by not wearing that sort of shirt. Well, I mean, guys are gonna look no matter what you do. Seems a little silly to get mad at them for staring...especially when girls do it themselves. We're just more covert about it.

Collapse · Post by **Collapse** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:08 pm

godoftarot wrote:
Zhan_Dvega wrote:What really ticks me off are girls who wear shirts with writing on the chest, and then get mad at you for looking at their chest

Especially this one girl, who I swear, had an entire friggin' essay written on her shirt.
From what I understand, the only assets I have worth staring at are my breasts. I've kinda come to the conclusion that if guys are gonna stare at me, that's probably what they'll be looking at. I wear a lot of shirts with things written on them. I do believe the point of shirts with things written on them is to be read.
So...I don't think girls should be getting mad about that. It can be easily avoided by not wearing that sort of shirt. Well, I mean, guys are gonna look no matter what you do. Seems a little silly to get mad at them for staring...especially when girls do it themselves. We're just more covert about it.

Show us your assets, and we'll decide which are your best!

Cope · Post by **Cope** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:40 pm

He so wants her.

Collapse · Post by **Collapse** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:43 pm

Graarrggg! No! Dammit stop that before she hurts me!

I don't even know what she looks likeyet