Opium? I thought it was pot. I'll never make it in the art worldRemusShepherd wrote:And it's important that the model that's posing for you be nude. Preferably you'll do this while chewing opium, just before the orgy. Nudity, opiates, and orgies are all essential activities in art school, so I hear.Black Sparrow wrote:At the same time, it would help to study how to draw anatomy. Have Beth do some poses for you and just sketch ROUGHLY what it looks like, if only in stick figures. Eventually, it'll turn into something, even if it's nothing now... it might take a couple years, though.
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Everything you do can teach you something. Here are some of my sources:
-Anatomy books are a must. Not only is the anatomy most important thing to learn, but also they are enormous help. Using an academic anatomy book, regardless of how good you draw, means an actuall leap in drawing skills.
-Photographs, fashion magazines, etc, taught me of clothes folding. Also helped me figuring out what kind of clothes people usually wear and how clothes lay on actual body.
-Other photo material helps me draw car, horses, houses, all kinds of things. I usually search for them when I need them.
-Tutorial books on inking help making your comic look more slick and professional in it's finished stage. Just tracing over pencil lines usually gives half-baked results.
-Other tutorials - agree or disagree with them, it is still useful to know how others are doing it.
-Live models - I haven't had much practise with them, but from what I had, they seem to be by far most useful.
You gotta draw comics continously to learn to draw them, but also to get used to scribbling on daily basis. Good thing with drawing practice is, it's not something strict, even while you're scribbling something while sitting on your balcony, you're still practising drawing. I think that that casula scribling helps as well. Manes your hand more steady and coordinated, if nothing.
If you have problems with face drawing, you can go for a style that has facial characteristics more emphasized, something more caricatural.
Of course, just drawing isn't the only approach to art. Other things like composition, narration, subtext, mood, style, etc, are things you can learn from your comic, whether it is hand-drawn, photo, Illustrator puppet or a comic about amorphous balls of light. There's many ways to be an artist.
-Anatomy books are a must. Not only is the anatomy most important thing to learn, but also they are enormous help. Using an academic anatomy book, regardless of how good you draw, means an actuall leap in drawing skills.
-Photographs, fashion magazines, etc, taught me of clothes folding. Also helped me figuring out what kind of clothes people usually wear and how clothes lay on actual body.
-Other photo material helps me draw car, horses, houses, all kinds of things. I usually search for them when I need them.
-Tutorial books on inking help making your comic look more slick and professional in it's finished stage. Just tracing over pencil lines usually gives half-baked results.
-Other tutorials - agree or disagree with them, it is still useful to know how others are doing it.
-Live models - I haven't had much practise with them, but from what I had, they seem to be by far most useful.
You gotta draw comics continously to learn to draw them, but also to get used to scribbling on daily basis. Good thing with drawing practice is, it's not something strict, even while you're scribbling something while sitting on your balcony, you're still practising drawing. I think that that casula scribling helps as well. Manes your hand more steady and coordinated, if nothing.
If you have problems with face drawing, you can go for a style that has facial characteristics more emphasized, something more caricatural.
Of course, just drawing isn't the only approach to art. Other things like composition, narration, subtext, mood, style, etc, are things you can learn from your comic, whether it is hand-drawn, photo, Illustrator puppet or a comic about amorphous balls of light. There's many ways to be an artist.
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You can learn a lot from Rob Liefeld, if you just avoid copying some of his...uh, idiosyncrasies....Noise Monkey wrote:Say it ain't so, Buster!!!bustertheclown wrote:I started out by copying the work of Rob Liefeld.

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my advice:
GET PORN
- best free anatomy reference index you can ever amas... seriously
GET A TABLET
- you can draw much faster (for more comic output) than you can do in, plus you can still sketch with pen/paper then trace it up and ink it via tablety goodness.
thats about it...
more advice:
- keep pratce! Dont give up after the first few weeks, but keep doing it for years! why? CUZZ ITS GOOD!
- practice makes perfect (see above advice)
GET PORN
- best free anatomy reference index you can ever amas... seriously
GET A TABLET
- you can draw much faster (for more comic output) than you can do in, plus you can still sketch with pen/paper then trace it up and ink it via tablety goodness.
thats about it...
more advice:
- keep pratce! Dont give up after the first few weeks, but keep doing it for years! why? CUZZ ITS GOOD!
- practice makes perfect (see above advice)
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I look forward to seeing the results! Be sure to post a link once you're ready for visitors 
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As for the Tablet, you may eventually want to make that investment, but as someone who HAS an embarassingly expensive, high quality tablet at my disposal - I can honestly tell you I still use pencil and ink on paper for all of my comics. It's a personal preference issue. (My wife uses and loves the tablet and does good work on it).
As good an excuse as it is to collect porn, I'd highly suggest anatomy books as a much more helpful source... unless you're specifically looking for kinky, provocative sex poses. Also, they're less likely to cause huge fights with your significant other. (Who would probably be more than willing to perform the necessary poses FOR youwebkilla wrote:my advice:
GET PORN
- best free anatomy reference index you can ever amas... seriously
GET A TABLET
- you can draw much faster (for more comic output) than you can do in, plus you can still sketch with pen/paper then trace it up and ink it via tablety goodness.
As for the Tablet, you may eventually want to make that investment, but as someone who HAS an embarassingly expensive, high quality tablet at my disposal - I can honestly tell you I still use pencil and ink on paper for all of my comics. It's a personal preference issue. (My wife uses and loves the tablet and does good work on it).
To echo others, if this is really what you want to do, then you need to do it.
Either learn on your own with the aid of anatomy books, photographs, models, whatever, or go to a drawing class. I'm sure there's an art school or college in your area that offers life drawing classes.
Or, if you're like me, and simply cannot bear the sight of your art, and do not have the motivation to improve, you could always hire an artist like I did. It may seem expensive, but there are many talented artists in areas like Mexico, Argentina, etc, that will work very cheaply.
Hell, when I first came on these boards, I was offering $10/strip, which is a really, really, really awful rate to pay someone, (It's worse than highway robbery, but I'll spare you all from the analogy that comes to mind) but I still got about a dozen submissions. I'm now paying my artist a better rate, (The guilt was unbearable) but I'm still getting an incredible deal.
Either learn on your own with the aid of anatomy books, photographs, models, whatever, or go to a drawing class. I'm sure there's an art school or college in your area that offers life drawing classes.
Or, if you're like me, and simply cannot bear the sight of your art, and do not have the motivation to improve, you could always hire an artist like I did. It may seem expensive, but there are many talented artists in areas like Mexico, Argentina, etc, that will work very cheaply.
Hell, when I first came on these boards, I was offering $10/strip, which is a really, really, really awful rate to pay someone, (It's worse than highway robbery, but I'll spare you all from the analogy that comes to mind) but I still got about a dozen submissions. I'm now paying my artist a better rate, (The guilt was unbearable) but I'm still getting an incredible deal.
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Yeah, I agree with this. The fenomenon of artists who know how to draw impossibly thin, large-chested women and little else is probably direct result of using porn as learning tool.That guy wrote: As good an excuse as it is to collect porn, I'd highly suggest anatomy books as a much more helpful source... unless you're specifically looking for kinky, provocative sex poses. Also, they're less likely to cause huge fights with your significant other. (Who would probably be more than willing to perform the necessary poses FOR you)
It's not completely unhelpful, but it shouldn't be primary source.
















