Emo thread

Stinkywigfiddle · Post by **Stinkywigfiddle** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:33 pm

That really doesn't sound like a very good church if they kick you out for that.

Killbert-Robby · Post by **Killbert-Robby** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:59 pm

Well, I have a friend I knew as a baby and pretty much grew up with. He was enlisted in the Israeli army at the age of 18 this year, and before he finished his training was sent off to the border to be on night-time guard duty.

My other friend who I've known about 5 years moved back to Southern Lebanon a few months ago, where's he from, and where he is right now.

And I've just had another rousing discussion with my parents about what a faliure I am and how my life is going nowhere and I can find a job because my dad's not gonna pay the university fees. Of course I'm foreign, so nobody hires me no matter how many interviews I go to, so it looks like I'll be in the Army this time next year making the money.

Yay.

Oh, and um I started smoking again too.

4thalord · Post by **4thalord** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:24 pm

rkolter wrote:...

*gives another Emo Emmy out to 4thalord*

Christians are humans too. That means they can be nice, or they can be sons of bitches. If you want to keep your faith, just move on to a church that understands you.

A church that understands me? Excuse me if I get all caps on here but THERE IS NO CHURCH THAT UNDERSTANDS ME BECAUSE I JUST REALIZED THAT CHURCHEDS ARE BUILD ON SMOKE AND NOTHING. THEY ARE BUILT ON MYTH AND FECES.

I got kicked out because I challenged Brother Jackson to prove that Jesus existed AT ALL. He's the leader of Farmer's Branch Fellowship of Chirst. Jackson first pointed to the bible and I pointed out that the bible is a badly translated version of the Pentatuch with a bunch of fan fiction thrown in after and has no corollary in history aside from some roman notes that Jesus's brother was executed FIVE YEARS LATER IN NAZARETH for the EXACT SAME CRIME JESUS WAS.

Brother Jackson got mad and tried to put this all on me but I am not falling for that.

A church that understands me>? Good luck.

Kris X · Post by **Kris X** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:30 pm

Some churches these days only understand what's good for themselves. That being money and past affiliations. First you have to understand yourself, then go look for those that have equal understandings.

As a person who was born into a church, been betrayed by that church, returned a second time, then left after final understanding of myself, and now working on what is important to me (which happens NOT to be any form of any religion).

Stop being angry, that's the worst you can do and start working for yourself. Take time away from the church and go mediatate for you. Think of nothing and learn about you.

Best advice I can pass on.

KittyKatBlack · Post by **KittyKatBlack** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:23 pm

4thalord wrote:
rkolter wrote:...

*gives another Emo Emmy out to 4thalord*

Christians are humans too. That means they can be nice, or they can be sons of bitches. If you want to keep your faith, just move on to a church that understands you.
A church that understands me? Excuse me if I get all caps on here but THERE IS NO CHURCH THAT UNDERSTANDS ME BECAUSE I JUST REALIZED THAT CHURCHEDS ARE BUILD ON SMOKE AND NOTHING. THEY ARE BUILT ON MYTH AND FECES.

I got kicked out because I challenged Brother Jackson to prove that Jesus existed AT ALL. He's the leader of Farmer's Branch Fellowship of Chirst. Jackson first pointed to the bible and I pointed out that the bible is a badly translated version of the Pentatuch with a bunch of fan fiction thrown in after and has no corollary in history aside from some roman notes that Jesus's brother was executed FIVE YEARS LATER IN NAZARETH for the EXACT SAME CRIME JESUS WAS.

Brother Jackson got mad and tried to put this all on me but I am not falling for that.

A church that understands me>? Good luck.

Dispite the fact that this may sound offensive to some, I congradulate you on your ability to break away from this mess and take a look at things for what they are. It takes a strong will to break down everything they've been told and stand up and say, "Wait a minute, this doesn't make sense."

I'm just sad it had to be sparked by such a horrible event. If it makes you feel any better I personally have a lot of respect for you, someone who previously was so devoted that they based their entire being around a religion and was still able to look at things objectively. It's a rare trait that you should be proud of. I know this is not really going to make things any easier or better on you, but I just want you to know you've taken a step most people are afraid and unwilling to take, and by doing so you've proven you can get through this and be happy again one day, with or without faith. Best of luck you.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:05 am

That sounds offensive only so much as it sounds like gloating.

Nanda · Post by **Nanda** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:27 am

mcDuffies wrote:That sounds offensive only so much as it sounds like gloating.

Well, it's tough being an atheist. Everyone else is convinced you're going to hell.

Post by **Mercury Hat** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:38 am

Yes, but there's a difference between an atheist who still respects a person's beliefs and choice to follow a religion and an atheist who says all religion is stupid and for weak, scared people

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Nanda · Post by **Nanda** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:43 am

Mercury Hat wrote:Yes, but there's a difference between an atheist who still respects a person's beliefs and choice to follow a religion and an atheist who says all religion is stupid and for weak, scared people .

That's true. And I didn't see anyone say anything like that.

Killbert-Robby · Post by **Killbert-Robby** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:45 am

Mercury Hat wrote:Yes, but there's a difference between an atheist who still respects a person's beliefs and choice to follow a religion and an atheist who says all religion is stupid and for weak, scared people .

I'm the kind of aetheist who looks at people who have faith with envy.

Blackaby · Post by **Blackaby** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:52 am

I respect 4thalord too, who's brought up the kind of topics here that I usually have to paddle back to Drunk Duck to read. I'm sorry I have no personal experience or real knowledge of 'Christianity'-views to really share.

Kilbert, here's hoping you find a job. If you need assistance in resume-writing, cover letter-writing, interviewing skills (especially when you're foreign!) I appear to be CG's go-to girl, so that offer's up. Not to everyone, but definitely to you, 'cos you is fine.

On my pro/cons -

Work is graargh and the idea of moving back to a country whose citizens almost uniformly treated me like a second-class human being and completely destroyed my self-worth is really making me feel physically sick. After living here in the UK for so long, I really don't think I can go back to that shit without having some kind of breakdown.

But I do get to see Zwuh and my parents again, and will finally meet Zwuh's parents, which for some reason I'm really excited about. Am even planning my hair and outfits for the occasion.

Nanda · Post by **Nanda** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:53 am

Killbert-Robby wrote:I'm the kind of aetheist who looks at people who have faith with envy.

Yeah, I can appreciate that. I envy the faithful's ability to believe in something, but I don't envy their beliefs.

Post by **Kisai** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:38 am

hmm

MixedMyth and the car: According to listening to 7 months of service shops and people with battery problems, the battery lasts 3-5 years, so if the battery isn't 3 years old, it's probably something else.

4thalord and the other faith emos: Find something else to believe in, since believeing in nothing could just drive you insane. Organized religions pretty much exist because people want to shun responsibility for their actions, and it's convienent to go "god/jesus/phrophet told me to" and "God/Jesus/Phrophet will forgive me" than to take responsibility for your actions. Organized Religon in it's literal sense is the belief of no free will.

Personally, I never bought into the religion thing, and was smacked for it, thus cementing my resolve for never buying into it or any form of it EVER.

Blackaby: What country did you used to live in?

Killbert-Robby: What? What country do you live in? What visible minority are you there?

And ew, military service. Let's see, we have the Israli vs Lebenon conflict, and Israel vs the rest of the arabs from a "Israel has no right to exist" muslim extremists. We have Iran picking a fight with the US going "na na, wesa gonna go noocoolar, pbbt!", We have North Korea picking a fight with the US and the general pacific-asia region by shaking it's dongs and throwing them in the general direction of countries. It seems to me like the entire reason any country still has an military people is because people are cheaper to throw away than weapons. Yet still people are better than machines at making the moral decision of who will die. Weapon machines only kill, they don't make any disctinction.

Yet the world will still go on, no matter what. The planet has existed for millions of years, it's extremely doubtful anything people do will cause it to cease to exist, but it is very possible to make it unliveable.

Killbert-Robby · Post by **Killbert-Robby** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:02 am

Kisai wrote:Killbert-Robby: What? What country do you live in? What visible minority are you there?

I'm not so much a moniority because I'm black, or asian, or whatever. I live in a small country, south Mediterranean, called Malta. Foreigners aren't strange to the country, tourism is the main industry, but foreign RESIDENTS? Well, theres ONE school to fit all the foreign kids into, and its got a population of about 400.

They joined the EU recently, and so especially now its tougher for a foreign resident to get a job, because there's this huge scare that all us Europeans are going to swoop down and take all the jobs. To put it into perspective, I'm not the only one that can't find work. Of the students in my highschool, and this is 100% true, the only ones with jobs are either Maltese of have some Maltese background, like Maltese-Americans.

Ah well, only one more year here *glee*

Nanda · Post by **Nanda** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:24 am

Kisai wrote:4thalord and the other faith emos: Find something else to believe in, since believeing in nothing could just drive you insane.

You really think so? It makes me sad sometimes, and frightened others, but I really doubt it's going to drive me insane. And unless your every waking thought revolves around your eventual death, in which case you probably need help for other reasons, it shouldn't be that extreme for others. It shouldn't have to be, at least. Most of the time I'm too busy to think about it, and whenever it creeps up on me (usually in the middle of the night) I generally come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter anyway, because when it finally happens, I won't be aware of it.

Killbert-Robby · Post by **Killbert-Robby** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:41 am

Nanda wrote:
Kisai wrote:4thalord and the other faith emos: Find something else to believe in, since believeing in nothing could just drive you insane.
You really think so? It makes me sad sometimes, and frightened others, but I really doubt it's going to drive me insane. And unless your every waking thought revolves around your eventual death, in which case you probably need help for other reasons, it shouldn't be that extreme for others. It shouldn't have to be, at least. Most of the time I'm too busy to think about it, and whenever it creeps up on me (usually in the middle of the night) I generally come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter anyway, because when it finally happens, I won't be aware of it.

I sort of agree. But instead of saying EVERYONE needs faith, I'll say SOME people do. For other people, it's just disappointing that they can't believe in any religion. And for others, they don't even feel it at all. We're all different.

Rkolter · Post by **Rkolter** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:58 am

Killbert-Robby wrote:
Nanda wrote:
Kisai wrote:4thalord and the other faith emos: Find something else to believe in, since believeing in nothing could just drive you insane.
You really think so? It makes me sad sometimes, and frightened others, but I really doubt it's going to drive me insane. And unless your every waking thought revolves around your eventual death, in which case you probably need help for other reasons, it shouldn't be that extreme for others. It shouldn't have to be, at least. Most of the time I'm too busy to think about it, and whenever it creeps up on me (usually in the middle of the night) I generally come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter anyway, because when it finally happens, I won't be aware of it.
I sort of agree. But instead of saying EVERYONE needs faith, I'll say SOME people do. For other people, it's just disappointing that they can't believe in any religion. And for others, they don't even feel it at all. We're all different.

I got the impression Kisai was speaking to people specifically who are emo about their faith or lack thereof, not commenting about people in general.

Killbert-Robby · Post by **Killbert-Robby** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:13 am

rkolter wrote:
Killbert-Robby wrote:
Nanda wrote: You really think so? It makes me sad sometimes, and frightened others, but I really doubt it's going to drive me insane. And unless your every waking thought revolves around your eventual death, in which case you probably need help for other reasons, it shouldn't be that extreme for others. It shouldn't have to be, at least. Most of the time I'm too busy to think about it, and whenever it creeps up on me (usually in the middle of the night) I generally come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter anyway, because when it finally happens, I won't be aware of it.
I sort of agree. But instead of saying EVERYONE needs faith, I'll say SOME people do. For other people, it's just disappointing that they can't believe in any religion. And for others, they don't even feel it at all. We're all different.
I got the impression Kisai was speaking to people specifically who are emo about their faith or lack thereof, not commenting about people in general.

*shurgs* Just making sure. Could have meant people emo about their faith, or could have meant because they have faith they're emo.

Thats what I thought when I 1st read it of course. I'm tired, shut up, I've made sense of it now...

*cofffffeeeeeee*

Blackaby · Post by **Blackaby** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:19 am

Australia.

It hasn't helped that aside from one, all the Australians I've encountered here in Dublin have been much the same as the ones who used to try to run me down on the street, threw things at me, or gave me other suggestions that I Was Not Welcome In Their Country. I may be in a shitty job over here and have a far smaller social group, but god, at least no one questions me about my genetic heritage, I'm never made uncomfortable by people probing me and I never get those OMG looks and people saying, "Oh you speak English well for a darkie."

Eugh. I want to vomit now. I really don't want to go back to it.

Killbert-Robby · Post by **Killbert-Robby** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:25 am

*Huggles Aby*