Water/explosion effect

Webkilla · Post by **Webkilla** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:52 pm

this will appear in my comic soon... (just an FYI)

I'm just wondering - what do yall think of the water effect? I was going for a "homg-pulse-thingy pushing away water from continent" kinda effect

and mind you, this was drawn from scratch - there aren't any reference pics for this kinda stuff :p

does it look like ocean(s) being forced away from a continent to you?

Warofwinds · Post by **Warofwinds** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:33 pm

It's a cool explosion for sure, but to me it doesn't look like water. Looks more like a bubble popping, or a balloon. Kinda like plastic. I think it's 'cause of the jagged edges. A water explosion would have rounded edges. On a small scale, I'm thinking a drop of water hitting more water might give you the effect you want:

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Michae ... 21258.jpeg

Still looks mad cool though.

Wp · Post by Wp » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:08 pm

The jagged edges are definitely giving it a more plant-like appearance, especially with the greenish water. And there are no land masses on that planet except for that top part. Is that intentional? Also, the pulse should not look the same on both sides of the planet.

Webkilla · Post by **Webkilla** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:09 am

warwind, one thing you have to keep in mind:

up close water is round and bubbly - but from the distance we're looking at the pic...

its from space - not up close - you cant see fine waterdroplets at that distance.

still, a ballon popping? I can see the similarity.... hmmm

Aiken · Post by **Aiken** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:30 am

If it's in space, then why can we hear the boom?

Rhenny · Post by **Rhenny** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:23 am

The circles seem to few, also I would add fragmented circles for the explosion, and a few more ebbs in the flow..here's a good pic to work from.

http://brelaxed.tripod.com/

Googled it up..

Rhen

Warofwinds · Post by **Warofwinds** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:36 am

webkilla wrote:warwind, one thing you have to keep in mind:

up close water is round and bubbly - but from the distance we're looking at the pic...

its from space - not up close - you cant see fine waterdroplets at that distance.

still, a ballon popping? I can see the similarity.... hmmm

Hehe, and that is why I said "on a small scale."

The unjagged edges hold true both for that small droplet and an entire ocean. Water is cohesive. It sticks together. It's liquid too, which means that it does not produce points. As ice, you can get edges. But water is soft. That was my point

Webkilla · Post by **Webkilla** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:05 am

hmm...

what if... the water being pushed into space freezes? that would make it jagged and stuff?

(i cant arse myself into redoing the pic...)

Siabur · Post by **Siabur** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:41 pm

It reminds me of that apple getting shot and the bullet captured in the pic. I think it all comes down to what the reference before it was. Is there a panel prior that shows the "before"? I think that would be more helpful to it and then the water exploding would be understood. In my opinion.

Webkilla · Post by **Webkilla** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:47 am

no large references to the planet, but this page here has a shot of it, from a different angle mind you:

http://psitech.comicgen.com/d/20070205.html

Sketchywallflowr · Post by **Sketchywallflowr** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:01 am

Is it water escaping a planet or just a continent? Because if it's a planet, then you wonldn't have round in the middle and explosion on the ends. Because planets are spheres, it would be pushing out from ALL angles. I think that's what is making it look so bubble-like. And there are two shine-spots, which there would be billions of shine spots or no shine spots. I think the major dilemma is that you're making the water as a whole, circular uniti when it's actually a bunch of smaller, non-circle units.
And don't forget, it's all pushing outward.

A good reference?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1m1BpUIG-sQ

Redtech · Post by **Redtech** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:14 pm

The water just doesn't have the right colour for me.

A very original "bang" though. I tried blowing up a planet and ended up with an egg.

Rkolter · Post by **Rkolter** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:48 am

webkilla wrote:hmm...

what if... the water being pushed into space freezes? that would make it jagged and stuff?

(i cant arse myself into redoing the pic...)

It definately looks plantlike to me for another reason - it blew out at the poles - an explosion in a water bubble would have quickly infused the water with gas, turning it opaque, and blasting the entire bubble at once, possibly with jagged effects, but all over the surface of a growing sphere, more like an explosion of a star.

In space, the water would have frozen, and then the explosion would have shattered the entire thing in one go. You might get a blast like the one you've shown here, but the circumfrence of the bubble would be cracked and shattered like safety glass, and in any case fogged to the point of being opaque.

This looks more like a pea overfilled with propane or some other transparent, flammable gas, and then poked at both ends and set alight.

It's a very, very cool picture though - just not a watery explosion.

Swikan · Post by **Swikan** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:57 am

You've really captured an explosive event, but I don't think water when I see it either. I definitely think more shockwaves are in order as Rhenny said above.

Perhaps a more "cloudy" effect.. you know.. water vapor? I remember seeing pics of mines going off in WW2 in the ocean and it looked very much like one going off on land, just.. cloudier.

Jdalton · Post by **Jdalton** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:41 pm

Things that explode in space don't have rings. Rings only happen when things collapse, like debris falling into a black hole or dust orbiting a planet and forming a ring around it. I know, every space movie ever has rings around exploding things, but that's only because they look cool- not because the special effects people know what they're talking about.