Sexy? Need help from anime fangirls

Robin Pierce · Post by **Robin Pierce** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:49 am

Have you considered putting a garter belt on the girl? or a cincher? Both look quite intriguing.

Bwerith · Post by **Bwerith** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:36 pm

The legs look fine to me now.

Starline said the hand looks like it's floating... it kind of looks that way to me, too, now that I think about it.

If you want to bother with fixing that, instead of redrawing the hand, you can just move the bottom of the pumpkin up a bit.

Wp · Post by Wp » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:49 pm

Ok, to me, this may actually look worse, but at least his hand matches up with bottom of the pumpkin. I wish I had more time to work on this, cuz if I did, that shoulder would definitely be fixed. But I've got about a week to do this, come up with another comic and, of course, handle Real Life. Should I leave it this way, or does the original look better?

Anywherebuthere · Post by **Anywherebuthere** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:02 pm

Actually, the elbow is on the wrong side if his hand is facing that way. Elbows are always opposite of the way the fingers point...

I'm probibly not explainging it the right way, but either rotate the hand, or remove the elbow from the right hand.

Wp · Post by Wp » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:15 pm

Nice catch, anywhere! Oh, I forgot to respond to pierce. I did consider a garter, but at this angle, it wouldn't be obvious enough; they'd just look like regular stockings. I don't know what a cincher is.

EDIT: Well, actually, if the arm is bent, the elbow is not really on the other side. If the arm is straight, it does go the opposite way a little, but mainly the elbow points back.

Anywherebuthere · Post by **Anywherebuthere** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:32 pm

Yeah but look at the bend.

You have the arm bending...er...

---> thataway...

and the hand pointing

<------

That away...

Which is a VERY painfull pose to pull off, unless you're really into Yoga.

I'ld reccomend pointing the fingers towards the viewer. But as it is...

It just looks like a very painfull way to be "restfully" placing one's hand.

Wp · Post by Wp » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:43 pm

Alright, I'm doing the motion right now with my own arm, and I'm not seeing the elbow bend the opposite direction. It points into the paper, but not to the other side of the fingers?? I'll try point the fingers out of the paper.

EDIT: AAAAAUUUUUUGH!! I HATE drawing hands. I swear I've almost worn a hole through the paper with my erasing. Would it help if I just cut out the hand altogether? Like raise the bottom of the drawing so you can't even see the bottom of the pumpkin?

Bwerith · Post by **Bwerith** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:07 pm

The slightly-bent arm does look a little weird to me; I think I liked it better with the arm straight, even with the shoulder looking a little stiff. You can just pretend that he was, like, working out and pulled his shoulder. Or something

Pylon · Post by **Pylon** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:11 pm

Whoops, forgot which arm we were talking about. Sorry. On the other arm, though, I would just make it straight. Less worries that way, and if it looks a little stiff, well, it is kind of holding up his weight a little there. I'd imagine he would hold it stiff straight after a while.

Bwerith · Post by **Bwerith** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:12 pm

Oh, I thought we were talking about the right arm....

Pylon · Post by **Pylon** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:16 pm

That's my fault, I didn't read far enough up the postings, and I mistaken believed we were asking about the left... whoops...

Wp · Post by Wp » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:35 pm

Alright, two more options. This will be my last two choices, as I don't believe this thread deserves so much "top of the forum" time. The first one makes it look as though he doesn't really put any weight on the arm (leaning against the pumpkin more):

This second one is my cheap way out! Leave it up to the imagination!

So which one is best? If I don't get started, there won't even BE a halloween picture...

Pylon · Post by **Pylon** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:37 pm

Now I can get back on topic...

I like the first one. Even if it's a last ditch effort kinda thing, at least it puts a hand on the guy's arm, rather than making it look a little messy with his arm hanging off the edge of the page like the second one.

Levi-chan · Post by **Levi-chan** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:24 pm

I go for the second one, wp. I mean, one of the hands is invisible anyway, so I don't think it matters that much. The error with the hands kinda detracts from the awesomeness of the pic.

But it's just me.

Suika · Post by **Suika** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:27 pm

I vote for the first option. Cropping it like that in the 2nd version makes it painfully obvious that you're trying to hide something. And it's a shame as well, seeing how well you drew the hands... and considering that it's not the hands that are the problem but the arms...

Wp · Post by Wp » Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:49 pm

Well, what about the very very first one? The one with a straight arm? That's still an option.

Naohiro · Post by **Naohiro** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:15 am

Ok, just some personal taste for the guy's sexyness.
I think you need to trim him down a little. While guy's are generally straighter than females are, they do still have a few curves here and there, just not as dramatic. Below, I've put in blue a few changes I would have made to the picture.

Another way to change the picture would be to make the guy not sitting up so straight. Let him loosen up if you're going to give him that kind of laid-back look. If he's supposed to be laid back he is looking really stiff instead. ^^U Of course, that all depends on what you were aiming for.

Either way, good luck! I've been working hard on my own Halloween special too. 8)

Ida · Post by **Ida** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:04 pm

Hawt. That's all I'm gonna say. 8)

Faub · Post by **Faub** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:33 am

Here's what I was talking about several posts ago. (I've been bad about actually posting, so bear with me.)

The shoulder that's supporting weight is a problem. In your female character, the shoulder supports the weight and reacts to it. In the male character, the shoulder doesn't. Notice where I've placed the shoulder in relation to your version. The resting arm IS floating a bit, but it's not much of a problem compared to the other.

Also, notice how the chest sticks upward a bit. It makes him look more like he's resting against the pumpkin rather than holding himself up with his torso.

Wp · Post by Wp » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:33 pm

Thanks, faub. Unfortunately, time doesn't permit such a drastic overhaul, as I'm very slow with drafting poses. I'll have to leave him faulty, unfortunately. I will keep everything you said in mind though, along with everyone else's advice. Good stuff! I'm indebted.