teh 3vil hand

DemonLamma · Post by **DemonLamma** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:24 pm

okay i need help with the hand. im pretty happy with the results of this but i need help witht the base of the had holding the gun. im missing something i know. can anyone help?

OnyxSerpent · Post by **OnyxSerpent** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:42 pm

Well.. From what I can tell, the thumb should probably be thinner because chances are it's being held farther away than the pinkie finger.. And it needs to be slightly more squareish on the thumb side of the wrist... But if you leave the tip of the thumb and the base the same size and make the middle smaller, it should look right...

Did anything I just say make sense? @.o

DemonLamma · Post by **DemonLamma** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:05 pm

a litte....

Alaina · Post by **Alaina** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:21 pm

I only drew three fingers, but I hope you get the general idea.

DemonLamma · Post by **DemonLamma** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:32 pm

oooh thankie. now it should look better,

TheBladeRoden2 · Post by **TheBladeRoden2** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:17 pm

now, how about that forehead? Or should we only address the task at hand? (no pun intended)

DemonLamma · Post by **DemonLamma** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:04 am

only the task at...... hand

, im not done yet.

Phalanx · Post by **Phalanx** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:11 am

Erm... one thing though. Is he currently shooting a pidgeon? Because the position his hand is in means that the trigger is currently being depressed.

Also, not sure what kind of gun you're depicting, but at the present it looks like the trigger is level with the bottom of the gun handle...

DemonLamma · Post by **DemonLamma** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:39 pm

he has a litte pressure on the trigger but not much. and the trigger is where it should be. i know that much at least.

Faub · Post by **Faub** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:33 pm

Guns:
If he's not shooting the gun, his finger shouldn't even be touching the trigger.

http://usgi1911.tripod.com/function/
A couple pics of a safety test for an M-1911 pistol.

http://www.pointshooting.com/guntests.htm
Notice here how he's holding the gun so that he can point with his index finger and fire with his middle finger.

http://www.tpub.com/content/USMC/mcrp30 ... 01a_27.htm
Notice in figure 3.3 how he's not touching the trigger while messing with the gun.

Faces:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091004W.shtml
While the message of this page is a little grisly (1000 soldiers who died in Iraq), it is an interesting resource. As TheBladeRoden2 mentioned, your character is missing a forehead. Notice that your character has about as much forehead showing as the men in the above link wearing hats. Those without hats have a substantial forehead, even if they have hair. (These are soldiers, most don't have hair. *shrug*)

Also notice that your character doesn't have much of a chin.

http://www.portrait-artist.org/face/structure4.html
This tutorial shows the proportions of a face based on the width of they eyes.

http://www2.evansville.edu/drawinglab/face.html
This one shows a slightly simpler version:
1. Draw an oval for the face. The oval is taller than it is wide.
2. The eyes are halfway between the top and bottom of the oval.
3. The nose is halfway between the eye line and the chin.
4. The mouth is halfway between the nose line and the chin.
5. The ears fall between the eye line and the mouth line.

DemonLamma · Post by **DemonLamma** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:59 pm

wow.... i didnt knwo that much was wrong with my picture. but i did catch the forehead thing right as i posted.

VimFuego · Post by **VimFuego** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:19 pm

Bit late, but since I struggle with hands all the time, thought I'd share this link: http://wynd.teamanime2k.org/hands/photos_hands.htm

Good clear hand pictures in various poses

.

-Vim

Alaina · Post by **Alaina** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:56 pm

Yes, but that's only the left hand

. It's the right hand that most artists find hard to draw because that's the hand that holds the pencil.

(Lefties are faking it for attention

)

VimFuego · Post by **VimFuego** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:10 pm

You could save the image you were working from and flip it over

I see whatcha mean, though.

-Vim

Cow! · Post by **Cow!** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:46 pm

Alaina wrote:Yes, but that's only the left hand . It's the right hand that most artists find hard to draw because that's the hand that holds the pencil.

(Lefties are faking it for attention )

HEHE.. faking it.. thats great.

Also, thanks for that link VimFuego
*bookmark*

Faub · Post by **Faub** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:33 pm

Ditto

That's just awesome!

Noemz · Post by **Noemz** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:09 pm

I always have a little mirror by my side when I'm drawing, so if I need to draw a right hand, I look at my left in the mirror.

If you find yourself twisting your arm around into ridiculous positions, then you're doing something wrong.

There's always a simpler way.

DemonLamma · Post by **DemonLamma** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:11 pm

VimFuego wrote:Bit late, but since I struggle with hands all the time, thought I'd share this link: http://wynd.teamanime2k.org/hands/photos_hands.htm

Good clear hand pictures in various poses .

-Vim

wow thats a great resource.

and did anyone notice how it was even taken safely, the gun was not loaded.