Comic Discussion - 20-03-2005
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Comic Discussion - 20-03-2005
Just thought i would make a thread about the comic just been posted as it is a shame to not talk about each comic as they come out unless it contains something that they want to talk about.
Anyhow heres todays comic on sunday - 20 - 03 - 2005
Well from what i can see i wonder how long he has been asleep as his perents are there that would mean that they would have taken the airship.
Also it seams they know that nessie is a keening progity which means that she has been there a while, you know what would be great is that after everyone has there fill, nessie and quntin has some time to catch up with nessie telling him about all the things that has happened cience he saved her(i.e. a flash back which shows nessies journy into the city and what happened when she got there as told from her perspective to quntin) I know that the main guy is quintin but it would be nice if we got to learn about other charaters and what happens to them as well.
Sometimes just concintrating on one person can make you not as interested in them as you would be if you had a short reprave from them, like when we saw the bit about nessie finding her powers and how she used them, by the end of thouse short storyline we where all rareing for quinton again heh
Well what do you guys think?
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Anyhow heres todays comic on sunday - 20 - 03 - 2005
Well from what i can see i wonder how long he has been asleep as his perents are there that would mean that they would have taken the airship.
Also it seams they know that nessie is a keening progity which means that she has been there a while, you know what would be great is that after everyone has there fill, nessie and quntin has some time to catch up with nessie telling him about all the things that has happened cience he saved her(i.e. a flash back which shows nessies journy into the city and what happened when she got there as told from her perspective to quntin) I know that the main guy is quintin but it would be nice if we got to learn about other charaters and what happens to them as well.
Sometimes just concintrating on one person can make you not as interested in them as you would be if you had a short reprave from them, like when we saw the bit about nessie finding her powers and how she used them, by the end of thouse short storyline we where all rareing for quinton again heh
Well what do you guys think?
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Re: Comic Discussion - 20-03-2005
Alot of the times on this forum people just take the words right out of my mouth... Except for me its not 'it will be great if...', its more of 'Mr. Hayes is probably gonna do...'. Just some times he pulls out a trumph card right from under our noses, and manages to surprise even some of the most briliant of minds, that are among us.EvilJayson wrote:nessie and quntin has some time to catch up with nessie telling him about all the things that has happened cience he saved her(i.e. a flash back which shows nessies journy into the city and what happened when she got there as told from her perspective to quntin)
Sometimes just concintrating on one person can make you not as interested in them as you would be if you had a short reprave from them, like when we saw the bit about nessie finding her powers and how she used them, by the end of thouse short storyline we where all rareing for quinton again heh
-Jayson
And yeah I know what you mean by concentraiting on one person can make you not as interested in them and more into the others. When you tell it from partially their perspective and the people around them. It makes it give more of hints and clues as opposed to straight out telling you. In thus making your mind try to crack the mystery of the character, which human instincts tells us to solve, explore, and seek the answers to the questions we ask. Humans can be quite predictable, at most times. Which makes it easier for Master Hayes(my brain tells me to upgrade your title to 'Master'[hope he isn't tricking me into doing that as well! eep]) to lure us to one conclusion but wind up fooling our minds... -.- and yet again, I've managed to go from one topic to something completely different...Sorry bout that, if it bothers anyone...
(was it just me or did he change his updating time?)
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The MAIN thing we've learned is that the whole city seems to know pretty much what went on down there. The wizards have probably done a complete "forensic deconstruction" by now. They also know how big the threat was. They've had lots of time to sort it all out, probably cleaned out the lab with a "hazmat team".
Upshot: Quentyn is now completely and widely known as a hero, period, end of discussion.
Upshot: Quentyn is now completely and widely known as a hero, period, end of discussion.
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A river of black
My worry was that Quentyn would fight so valiantly, only to have it go unknown. It's nice to know that he will be getting the praise he deserves!A river of black beneath the streets

Hopefully, he gets some sort of financial renumeration for his deeds.

On the down side, remember, no good deed goes unpunished. Usually, the reward for a noble deed is getting drafted for another noble (i.e. life threatening) task.

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Re: A river of black
I was afraid that might happen as well - I am glad to see the recognition.squirrelly61104 wrote:My worry was that Quentyn would fight so valiantly, only to have it go unknown. It's nice to know that he will be getting the praise he deserves!
And his creator as well, Ralph, for a great story line!squirrelly61104 wrote:Hopefully, he gets some sort of financial renumeration for his deeds.

The "what have you done for me lately" syndome - a problem for any hero. But Queynton's problem is our gain so to speak in new adventures.squirrelly61104 wrote:On the down side, remember, no good deed goes unpunished. Usually, the reward for a noble deed is getting drafted for another noble (i.e. life threatening) task.
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Re: A river of black
His witness might be accused of youthful exaduration(sp) related to the exploits of a personal hero... doesn't really fit the facts, but the court of public opinion is not exactly scientifically rigorous.squirrelly61104 wrote: It's nice to know that he will be getting the praise he deserves!![]()
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If the powers-that-be don't want to acknowledge it, the F&O will. The story will get out, more or less accurately. Nice to have friends in the press, after all. He'll at least get recognition, and hopefully a reward - the Millfolks will probably give him a hefty bonus, at the very least, and their regard will influence the rest of the upper crust.
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While Colin might imbellish his recount of Quentyn's exploits just a bit, the wizards and mages know the real story and I doubt that they'll let Quentyn's heroism be minimized in any way. He saved Sanctuary City and the Luxfont....at very nearly the cost of his own life.....period!
As to Rahan....I just wanna see 'im get decked....HARD, the next time he decides to pick on Quentyn. Or at least something happen to totally humiliate him publicly. That's always been the very best of medicines for bullys.
GREAT JOB RALPH!!!
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As to Rahan....I just wanna see 'im get decked....HARD, the next time he decides to pick on Quentyn. Or at least something happen to totally humiliate him publicly. That's always been the very best of medicines for bullys.
GREAT JOB RALPH!!!
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Well hopefully this won't be a repeat of the last time, when Quentyn was accused of stirring up trouble. On the flip side, I don't think Quentyn is going to be quite the hero of the city. People aren't going to realize how much danger the city was in, most people anyway.
From the viewpoint of most people, Quentyn just stopped a few mysterious lux outages by killing some rats with their tales knotted together and that's all. How much danger was the city in to those folks. Some folks are probably more appreciative of how much danger the rat wights were in the long run, but to most folks, Quentyn's heroic deeds aren't going to seem all that heroic.
But he Millfolk family will probably pay him a bonus, I agree. They appreicate exactly what he went through for them and for the town. What was just originally sitting up with Colin turned into something far more dangerous, and they understand full well that he saved Colin, not to mention the rest of the household from a terrible fate.
Now if they can only figure out how the @#$% sword works....
From the viewpoint of most people, Quentyn just stopped a few mysterious lux outages by killing some rats with their tales knotted together and that's all. How much danger was the city in to those folks. Some folks are probably more appreciative of how much danger the rat wights were in the long run, but to most folks, Quentyn's heroic deeds aren't going to seem all that heroic.
But he Millfolk family will probably pay him a bonus, I agree. They appreicate exactly what he went through for them and for the town. What was just originally sitting up with Colin turned into something far more dangerous, and they understand full well that he saved Colin, not to mention the rest of the household from a terrible fate.
Now if they can only figure out how the @#$% sword works....
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hmm so a coverup might or mightnot happen?
Either way there will always be those people who say or believe that it
did'nt happen or that it was mondo easy to get rid of the rat king
Since some young kid got rid of it?
Why do i see Rahan being one of those people who says it was easy or
doesn't believe it really happened???
Probly because to believe it would mean that quentyn has some
"strength" to him then???
either way it's just a thought =)
Either way there will always be those people who say or believe that it
did'nt happen or that it was mondo easy to get rid of the rat king
Since some young kid got rid of it?
Why do i see Rahan being one of those people who says it was easy or
doesn't believe it really happened???
Probly because to believe it would mean that quentyn has some
"strength" to him then???
either way it's just a thought =)
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I can easily see any nay-sayers getting a dressing down (or possibly a beating) from any of the witnesses who know what happened and what Quentin did.
Also if a certain boyhood bully starts too much nonsense, I could see the Millfolk's and their friends having that bullies' master tan his hide under economic threat by the bigwigs.
(Of course our Hero could wrestle him to the ground and toss him in the sewer manhole or something)
Also if a certain boyhood bully starts too much nonsense, I could see the Millfolk's and their friends having that bullies' master tan his hide under economic threat by the bigwigs.
(Of course our Hero could wrestle him to the ground and toss him in the sewer manhole or something)
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There are some good points on this thread. I am a little worried about the fame getting to Quentyn's head, but not too much. I am more concernred about him becoming....overwhelmed? Becoming smothered by media, fans, con-people, and advantage-takers. There is a dark to becoming this type of noterighty. Almost, I am not familiar with "keening"? What excatly is Nessie potentially (after her evaluation) good at? Finally, REALLY COOL STRIP RH! LOVED IT!!!! WEEEEEEEE!!!
p.s. Rahan is probably one of the quiet who said he isn't worthy of the praise because he's poor, small, or some other stupid reason. A typical jealous bully.
p.s. Rahan is probably one of the quiet who said he isn't worthy of the praise because he's poor, small, or some other stupid reason. A typical jealous bully.
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Start at http://npc.keenspace.com/d/20040308.html and go from there. It'll give you a better idea about Nessie's special abilities. "Keening" refers to her ability to divine the locations of things.
Start at http://npc.keenspace.com/d/20040308.html and go from there. It'll give you a better idea about Nessie's special abilities. "Keening" refers to her ability to divine the locations of things.
Actually, the term is 'kenning', and there was a really good discussion thread about this only a couple of months ago. Just scroll backwards through the topics, and you should see it. If I can find the exact title of the thread, I will post it here.
When trouble arises and things look bad, there's always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that individual is insane.
I don't think anything is going to go to Quentyn's head.
1) He *knows* he almost died, and that drove him literally to tears.
2) He knows he nearly drove his parents insane with grief, and that would also seriously bother him. His relationship with both his parents is excellent - remember, they thought this whole "Questor" thing was pretty goofy early on but they still supported him, and once those dead croc-things got carted past his pop in particular was tickled pink
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If anything the kid needs a confidence boost. One way to get it would be to sort out what's really going on with that sword and master it.
1) He *knows* he almost died, and that drove him literally to tears.
2) He knows he nearly drove his parents insane with grief, and that would also seriously bother him. His relationship with both his parents is excellent - remember, they thought this whole "Questor" thing was pretty goofy early on but they still supported him, and once those dead croc-things got carted past his pop in particular was tickled pink

If anything the kid needs a confidence boost. One way to get it would be to sort out what's really going on with that sword and master it.
One thread, where Ralph explains the difference between 'magesight' and 'kenning':
viewtopic.php?t=62494
I was sure that there was another thread, but I can't remember the title - Anybody else who does, feel free to step in.
viewtopic.php?t=62494
I was sure that there was another thread, but I can't remember the title - Anybody else who does, feel free to step in.
When trouble arises and things look bad, there's always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that individual is insane.
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A few observations here...
When we originally saw Nessie's kenning ability, it was said at the time to be limited to the swamp, that being the area where she grew up and was most familiar with. Evidently she is no longer subject to that limitation, if she ever was. And what would everyone else interpret the "river of black" to be? Recall that besides Quentyn, few others actually saw the wights (Colin and Lady Millfolk), so to anyone else it borders on hearsay that they ever existed. We know better, of course, but what is the average citizen in Sanctuary City going to believe? (It would require some other plausible explanation of Colin's wounds...)
I think Quentyn came much too close to dying to let anything about being a hero go to his head, at least as far as him acting as if he can take on anything the world can dish out. That, plus his feelings about killing Gragum his first time out. Speaking of which, I'll bet Emmett is happy for the opportunity to talk to Nessie and fill in a few details on that quest, if he isn't too busy covering the latest one, that is.
And at the moment, I don't care one way or the other if we see Rahan's take on all this. Though who knows what surprises RHJ may have planned that would make all the difference?
When we originally saw Nessie's kenning ability, it was said at the time to be limited to the swamp, that being the area where she grew up and was most familiar with. Evidently she is no longer subject to that limitation, if she ever was. And what would everyone else interpret the "river of black" to be? Recall that besides Quentyn, few others actually saw the wights (Colin and Lady Millfolk), so to anyone else it borders on hearsay that they ever existed. We know better, of course, but what is the average citizen in Sanctuary City going to believe? (It would require some other plausible explanation of Colin's wounds...)
I think Quentyn came much too close to dying to let anything about being a hero go to his head, at least as far as him acting as if he can take on anything the world can dish out. That, plus his feelings about killing Gragum his first time out. Speaking of which, I'll bet Emmett is happy for the opportunity to talk to Nessie and fill in a few details on that quest, if he isn't too busy covering the latest one, that is.
And at the moment, I don't care one way or the other if we see Rahan's take on all this. Though who knows what surprises RHJ may have planned that would make all the difference?
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