An awkward conversation

Bushipunk · Post by **Bushipunk** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:05 pm

So I'm thinking she's not Morrigan after all. She doesn't really look much like Morrigan now that we've seen more of her, and she certainly doesn't have the personality; Thera's personality certainly didn't change much when she remembered her identity (she cut a guy's car in half the first time we saw her).

Now, returning to the ethnicity (since it was the focus of the comic): Though I've wracked my brains and copious files, I don't know of any explicitly Asian characters in Strange Daze to date. So we're probably meeting someone new. Someone new to us, but we're meeting them around the time the strip started, so... Betting pool on whether she'll survive to the strips' present, or even get a name?

Bushi

Acolyte · Post by **Acolyte** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:30 pm

I don't know. I sure thought she was Morrigan when I first saw her even before I visited the forum. Right now she's obviously depressed or upset and is running away from home. She's not going to behave the same when she knows she's a goddess. (Although not all that differently. She's pretty deadpan when we first meet her.)

Edit: I just went back to refresh myself on what Morrigan looked like, but you can't really see the shape of her eyes with those panda markings she has. But re-reading some of the strips around the Paradise chapter and came to this one http://strangedaze.keenspace.com/d/20020712.html and just had to laugh my ass off at that first panel. Again. "You mean ice?

Bushipunk · Post by **Bushipunk** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:01 pm

Acolyte wrote:I don't know. I sure thought she was Morrigan when I first saw her even before I visited the forum. Right now she's obviously depressed or upset and is running away from home. She's not going to behave the same when she knows she's a goddess. (Although not all that differently. She's pretty deadpan when we first meet her.)

Yeah. On further examination I'm convinced she's Morrigan again. (Note: Editted to reverse my original opinion, which was just wrong.)

What's the deal with the panda markings, anyway? Hel's face kind of makes sense to me (the mask of death), Heph's pretty much normal looking (for a scarred dude with a big metal arm), Loki's normal looking (apart from his magic goatee, three strips starting here: http://strangedaze.keenspace.com/d/20011105.html )... Of course, Loki may not even be an Incarnate, and Heph may just never have shown us his Incarnate form. Huh. Do the markings actually represent something?

Acolyte · Post by **Acolyte** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:09 pm

Hm. If you squint, it looks a tad skull-like. Or maybe she's just deceptively cute that way, until you come into firing range.

I knew something was bugging me about Asian characters. There was at least one other: the middle Fate from the bar. http://strangedaze.keenspace.com/d/20011123.html Also a Japanese name. Probably just a coincidence....

Bushipunk · Post by **Bushipunk** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:42 pm

Well spotted on both counts.

Seafog the 3rd · Post by **Seafog the 3rd** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:54 pm

Well, I think this puts it a bit beyond awkward! Wonder what he wants to syphon? This could also be the awakening trigger, if that is indeed Morrigan.

Guildenstern · Post by **Guildenstern** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:03 pm

I should think it's just a sedative of some sort. Knocking her out for some later time to be dealt with.

Bushipunk · Post by **Bushipunk** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:39 pm

Guildenstern wrote:I should think it's just a sedative of some sort. Knocking her out for some later time to be dealt with.

So does he know who he's knocking out?

And will the drug even work? Drugs designed against angels don't work on Thera, since she's not an angel... Would a drug designed for humans (if he doesn't know who/what she is) work on Morrigan? Does it make any difference that she doesn't know she's not human?

Of course we don't really know she doesn't know yet. Thera's human-looking (huge, but still) most of the time. The fact that we've never seen Morrigan without her face on doesn't mean she's perma-goth.

So far ever comic/revelation in this storyline has thrown me for a loop. Doing that with a story that's filling in blanks isn't easy.

Bushi

Perfervid · Post by **Perfervid** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:35 am

She could be one of the children, perhaps... the fifth child was able to escape the servants of Nyarlathotep as well.

We know little about the fifth child, except she's called Elizabeth, and is paranoid.
The current story arc might very well be what caused her paranoia.

Acolyte · Post by **Acolyte** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:44 pm

Perfervid wrote:She could be one of the children, perhaps... the fifth child was able to escape the servants of Nyarlathotep as well.

We know little about the fifth child, except she's called Elizabeth, and is paranoid.
The current story arc might very well be what caused her paranoia.

An Incarnate *and* the fifth child? Seems too much of a coincidence, but of course, coincidences are never really coincidental.

Notice how Morrigan seems to be running the TWO -- or at least those involved in it always do what she tells them. This might explain how the association came to be. They might have had an inkling as to who she was and sought her out.

But we'll find out very shortly. Matt is being admirably regular in his updates for this arc so far.

Quantum Alchemist · Post by **Quantum Alchemist** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:00 pm

Hrm..

If this -is- both Morrigan -and- the Fifth Child... perhaps that tells us what the experiments were meant to do -- trigger Incarnate awakenings.

Or something.

I dunno!

Perfervid · Post by **Perfervid** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:07 am

Ooops, didnt make myself completely clear.
I was theorizing that she might be the fifth child, and NOT Morrigan.

That she might be both is an interesting idea, tough one that didn't cross my mind.

Acolyte · Post by **Acolyte** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:51 am

Perfervid wrote:Ooops, didnt make myself completely clear.
I was theorizing that she might be the fifth child, and NOT Morrigan.

We know the fifth child's name is Elizabeth. http://strangedaze.keenspace.com/d/20041012.html So we'll just have to wait until someone addresses her by name to find out. (Obviously, Morrigan isn't the name her parents gave her in her current incarnation, assuming we're right and that's her.)

Bushipunk · Post by **Bushipunk** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:03 pm

Acolyte wrote:
Perfervid wrote:Ooops, didnt make myself completely clear. I was theorizing that she might be the fifth child, and NOT Morrigan.
We know the fifth child's name is Elizabeth. http://strangedaze.keenspace.com/d/20041012.html So we'll just have to wait until someone addresses her by name to find out. (Obviously, Morrigan isn't the name her parents gave her in her current incarnation, assuming we're right and that's her.)

In the past someone (I forget exactly who) speculated that "Elizabeth" was Liza Castillo, of control. Seemed very reasonable at the time.

I have a new theory, myself: This is Morrigan, non-5th-Child, but hasn't realized it yet. (My theory won't be proven by her being addressed by name, of course.) Anywho, just as Thera was already a vengful angel and Heph was a monster hunter before they woke up, Morrie's already part of the Army of Man, and is currently on an undercover op to track down the Eyes & Teeth. The text boxes, then, would be her cyber-daemon...

It's a lot to speculate based on one comic, more or less, in a story arc I haven't once called right so far, but that's my personal guess.

Bushi

(Edit: Meant to say originally how cool Eyes & Teeth look. Seriously menacing, especially considering I know nothing about them. It's really cool how expressive Teeth seems considering he really just has several of the same facial feature.)

Acolyte · Post by **Acolyte** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:27 pm

Bushipunk wrote:Anywho, just as Thera was already a vengful angel and Heph was a monster hunter before they woke up, Morrie's already part of the Army of Man, and is currently on an undercover op to track down the Eyes & Teeth. The text boxes, then, would be her cyber-daemon...

Or perhaps "The Corinthian" and his opposite number there were the ones responding to her distress call?

Hm. If she's really 12, that's awfully young to belong to one of these organizations, isn't it?

It's a lot to speculate based on one comic, more or less, in a story arc I haven't once called right so far, but that's my personal guess.

I think I got something right once, a long time ago, but I could be remembering something in an overly optimistic way. But hell, if this comic were that predictable it wouldn't be so worth reading.

Seafog the 3rd · Post by **Seafog the 3rd** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:14 am

Heh, and I learned a new word today. Now I can insult Spock and Sherridan.

Acolyte · Post by **Acolyte** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:50 am

Seafog the 3rd wrote:Heh, and I learned a new word today. Now I can insult Spock and Sherridan.

"Miscegenation"? This is a rare context where it's actually appropriate. In the US, especially in the South but also anywhere you found bigots with polysyllabic vocabularies, it was a racist term used to describe "mixed race" marriages. That's pretty much why you almost never hear it anymore.

Perfervid · Post by **Perfervid** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:51 am

When Loki were explaining why he revealed to the (other?) incarnates the surfacing Thera (And thus Jack),
He stated that Morrigan, was "an eight year old incarnate of battle that excels at spotting and exploiting any weakness" .

Thus she is, when the Ghouls and the Shan are sent after Jack, probably eight years.

As a side note, the first time I ran into the word miscegenation, was when reading "The transition of titus crow" by Brian Lumley, where it was used in regards to the great old ones ability to breed with other races.
So the usage is quite similar.

Mirober · Post by **Mirober** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:17 am

Perfervid wrote:When Loki were explaining why he revealed to the (other?) incarnates the surfacing Thera (And thus Jack),
He stated that Morrigan, was "an eight year old incarnate of battle that excels at spotting and exploiting any weakness" .

Thus she is, when the Ghouls and the Shan are sent after Jack, probably eight years.

Wuh-oh. Damn, sorry, mistake on my part. In 1999 she would have been about eight years old; in 2001 (which is as far as the Strange Daze timeline has advanced), she would be 10.

Also, I should probably note that the character involved in the current story does, in fact, have secondary sexual characteristics (specifically, breasts).

Bushipunk · Post by **Bushipunk** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:41 am

Mirober wrote:
Perfervid wrote: Thus she is, when the Ghouls and the Shan are sent after Jack, probably eight years.
Wuh-oh. Damn, sorry, mistake on my part. In 1999 she would have been about eight years old; in 2001 (which is as far as the Strange Daze timeline has advanced), she would be 10.

Ah... Well, that nips my theory in the bud, then. Well done sir.

I still think this as-yet-unnamed girl is with the Army of Man, though, and that was her cyber-daemon talking in the last comic. Today's seems compatible with that, although it doesn't provide any further evidence.

I do hope we get to find out what Teeth & Eyes want because the Army of Man responds to the distress signal, though.

Bushi

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