*sappy*
AAAAWWWWWWWWW!! How schweet! ;D
Heh, if only my characters' relationships could work out so smoothly and relatively painlessly....
All together now...
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LAGtheNoggin
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*a la Aleixa* "I've got it!"
Well, I guess we know why he likes MY comic so much...
*whistles nonchalantly and goes off to try and find more Apoptygma Berzerk mp3s*
*whistles nonchalantly and goes off to try and find more Apoptygma Berzerk mp3s*
Mmm... yeah
...just as they don't in real life, eh?Gloria wrote:Heh, if only my characters' relationships could work out so smoothly and relatively painlessly....
Ahh, I just couldn't resist having a bit of a happy ending... Although I confess I'm taking it on trust that romantic love does exist. It seems to be widely accepted and felt, so I'm running with that, even though I'm still doubtful myself.
I once had a discussion with a fellow English scholar about love - or its literary expression - while I was at a seminar on Chaucer. I said that I thought romantic love was an entirely artificial conception, first invented by the French courtly poets and then sustained by popular culture since. He stared at me as if he'd never heard such blasphemy. And replied hotly that there was nothing more natural or genuine than the human instinct to love.
But I don't really know.
Alex has read a lot of poetry, that I will say
"A" is the apple that Eve had to try...
I must assume that "romantic" love is a natural thing, being rather a conglomeration of attraction and sexuality, often combined with deep emotional affection, and, sometimes, even genuine spiritual love.
It's rather more complicated than a lot of people think, though perhaps, deep down, it's lees complicated than we might like to imagine.
Personally... where my own relationship with a certain other person is concerned, "romance" is really of minor importance, though I guess I'd have to admit that it IS there. We're sappy by nature, and we've got the whole giggly starry-eyed "in love" thing down, but... our relationship goes a heck of a lot deeper than that. When we pray together, when we converse on the phone, when we stand by each other in all circumstances... Love is more than a romantic notion. It shoots straight to the core of who we are.
And, even more than the love between two people is the love of God, which is perfect and unfailing. In God we see pure, unadulterated, perfect love, without the stupid socio-emotional problems that we humans have. Without selfishness, without fear. God is awesome. And, so, since we are made in His image, we are able to experience at least SOME of this love, even in our imperfect state.
So.. yeah. That was a ramble, I know.
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It's rather more complicated than a lot of people think, though perhaps, deep down, it's lees complicated than we might like to imagine.
Personally... where my own relationship with a certain other person is concerned, "romance" is really of minor importance, though I guess I'd have to admit that it IS there. We're sappy by nature, and we've got the whole giggly starry-eyed "in love" thing down, but... our relationship goes a heck of a lot deeper than that. When we pray together, when we converse on the phone, when we stand by each other in all circumstances... Love is more than a romantic notion. It shoots straight to the core of who we are.
And, even more than the love between two people is the love of God, which is perfect and unfailing. In God we see pure, unadulterated, perfect love, without the stupid socio-emotional problems that we humans have. Without selfishness, without fear. God is awesome. And, so, since we are made in His image, we are able to experience at least SOME of this love, even in our imperfect state.
So.. yeah. That was a ramble, I know.
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Good points, well made
Not at all. It's made me ask some difficult questions of myself, which can only be a good thing.Gloria wrote:So.. yeah. That was a ramble, I know.
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I think I'm likely to be at a disadvantage if I'm to portray a loving relationship, as - aside from my natural ties to my parents, which are anyway a rather different kettle of fish - I don't have any emotional experience of one. I don't believe I've ever really felt that closeness with another human being. Nor with any higher power - I think that's probably the key reason that I'm an atheist; I don't feel there to be anything divine 'out there' or 'in here', and within the limits of rational explanation alone I can't justify belief.
That's no cause for pity - I don't feel a hole in myself as a result - but it means I have to trust these emotions in others. It'd certainly be irresponsible for me to argue that anyone else's feelings are invalid; to do so would be to attack the single unique, non-transferable, absolute reference point we have. But, as they're non-transferable, it's sometimes hard for me to imagine them.
Anyway, it's early days yet; I'm sure I'll find out at some point in the next sixty years...
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What more can I say other than 'ditto'?
Except I would have worded it in a much more clumsy manner oh mighty JimRob ^.^
When I say to leave love out, it's just my way of dealing with things; 'Don't think about it until you're in it or will need it.' So far it's worked, except for school of course but other than that it hasn't failed yet! Oh alright, it has, but hey, it means I can be lazy by just saying "That's not important right now, what's important right now is two more hours of sleep."
Which I suppose is laziness now that I type it...
So therefore I can safely say "I'm too lazy to bother with Love right now," or I could just be using that as an excuse cause I ain't gettin' any...
Either way! I'll just get back to reading comics shall I? Ah, much safer...
Except I would have worded it in a much more clumsy manner oh mighty JimRob ^.^
When I say to leave love out, it's just my way of dealing with things; 'Don't think about it until you're in it or will need it.' So far it's worked, except for school of course but other than that it hasn't failed yet! Oh alright, it has, but hey, it means I can be lazy by just saying "That's not important right now, what's important right now is two more hours of sleep."
Which I suppose is laziness now that I type it...
So therefore I can safely say "I'm too lazy to bother with Love right now," or I could just be using that as an excuse cause I ain't gettin' any...
Either way! I'll just get back to reading comics shall I? Ah, much safer...
If I seem hard to see, it's cause the one I luh-huv...
*nods*
Let me just quote scripture and say: "Do not awaken love until it so desires" (that's from Song of Songs, and it actually occurs three times in that book).
I understand what you mean, by not even being able to really comprehend that something exists until you've experienced it yourself. Not necessarily SEEN, because, heck, there's plenty of things that we can't see or touch or anything, but we accept them on faith.
I guess... I'm a sheltered person. There's a lot of things I've never done, a lot of things I've never had to experience. However... I guess I'm a lucky one, because I KNOW what true love is. I don't just mean human love, either... True love comes from God, who demonstrated His love by becoming human and dying a terrible death to reconcile mankind (mankind being a bunch of morons who pretty much ignore or hate Him) to himself. Yeah. I believe Jesus was God in the flesh. I know it seems old-fashioned, but after a very dark season in my life (see the untitled strips from around the beginning of last year)... I came to realize that there couldn't BE any other answer. I was running from God, I was rejecting the very idea of His existance, because I was in pain and I didn't see Him doing diddly-squat... but... somehow, I knew. He was following me. I could feel it, I feel it now. When I'm alone in my room at night and it's dark and quiet, I have this overwhelming sense of NOT being alone. Not in a scary way. In a comforting way. I really can't explain what it's like better than that. It's not a warm-fuzzy feeling. It's not some religious ecstasy. It's just... yeah. I know it's real. More real than anything.
And that's what love is about.
~Gloria, who rambles much~
Let me just quote scripture and say: "Do not awaken love until it so desires" (that's from Song of Songs, and it actually occurs three times in that book).
I understand what you mean, by not even being able to really comprehend that something exists until you've experienced it yourself. Not necessarily SEEN, because, heck, there's plenty of things that we can't see or touch or anything, but we accept them on faith.
I guess... I'm a sheltered person. There's a lot of things I've never done, a lot of things I've never had to experience. However... I guess I'm a lucky one, because I KNOW what true love is. I don't just mean human love, either... True love comes from God, who demonstrated His love by becoming human and dying a terrible death to reconcile mankind (mankind being a bunch of morons who pretty much ignore or hate Him) to himself. Yeah. I believe Jesus was God in the flesh. I know it seems old-fashioned, but after a very dark season in my life (see the untitled strips from around the beginning of last year)... I came to realize that there couldn't BE any other answer. I was running from God, I was rejecting the very idea of His existance, because I was in pain and I didn't see Him doing diddly-squat... but... somehow, I knew. He was following me. I could feel it, I feel it now. When I'm alone in my room at night and it's dark and quiet, I have this overwhelming sense of NOT being alone. Not in a scary way. In a comforting way. I really can't explain what it's like better than that. It's not a warm-fuzzy feeling. It's not some religious ecstasy. It's just... yeah. I know it's real. More real than anything.
And that's what love is about.
~Gloria, who rambles much~