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Both of the last posts are very close to the
mark. The three troublemakeres were indeed
hoping that there would be an altercation
that would make the friction between human
and furry society worse because of their not
really being armed (never mind that security
personnel have to treat someone that appears
to be armed as though they ARE until it can
be proved otherwise; all human society would
care about is that they really weren't, and
that they got hurt by evil beasts) and it is
also true that the situation isn't really
over yet - and that someone was indeed being
targeted...

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The intruders were intending to get seriously roughed up by Furriston security. But there won't be any 'furry brutality' towards unarmed kids now. ;-)<P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Katra:
<B>The intruders were intending to get seriously roughed up by Furriston security. But there won't be any 'furry brutality' towards unarmed kids now. ;-)<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Unfortunately I fear the plan is far darker. The kids, obviously, were targeted to someone; all of them are bemoaning their 'failure'. However, I suspect they were in fact decoys to lure the real target into the open for easier attack. We already know Avariss the Elder is a really nasty bugger, and has grudges against more then one member of Furriston Security.<P>I hope I'm wrong, but I really suspect someone's about to get hurt, or attacked, from a completely unexpected direction.<P>-- ArchTeryx

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ekevu Cheetah:
<B> The biggest question in my mind is: why kids? If there's Avarris' fingers in this, even indirectly, it wouldn't be any intelligent assigning a specific mission (even if it's "make noise so that we can do what we want") to kids.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If Avariss' intention was to increase the ill
will between the societies of their world,
which situation would be better suited: an
adult human getting hurt by furry security,
or an adult kid getting hurt? Which would get
a more emotional reaction in human society?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ekevu Cheetah:
<B>Biggest question #2: why the heck is I'brolend wondering instead of eventually
getting the troublemaker kid under control?
Isn't it common robbery with fake weapons so
hat they can flee without confronts?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's the way I'Brolent is. Martin would
have simply cuffed the kid and taken him away.
But I'Brolent is a very moral individual, and
now that it's clear the kid is not only not
going to able to hurt him but anyone else,
he wants to know what motivated the kid to
do what he did.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArchTeryx:
<B> Interesting points, Gene! (What am I saying?! You wrote the story!) It sounds like their surface mission was being given the "fake" armaments, told to seek out a particular person, and make as much trouble with the festival, and security, as possible along the way.<P>Any success they had would have been a bonus, but the real mission seems to have been kept secret from 'em.<P>But, of course, I figure that things will turn out all right in the end, though it may be a very bumpy, scary, nasty road getting there!<P>-- ArchTeryx<P>[This message has been edited by ArchTeryx (edited 12-08-2001).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, that's almost right - they were indeed
after a particular individual. But it'll be
quite a while before everything will be all
right, I'm afraid...<P>

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So said genecatlow:
<B>> Which would get a more emotional reaction in human society?</B>
HOLY EXCREMENT!!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/eek.gif"> That guy is smart!<P><B>> But I'Brolent is a very moral individual, and now that it's clear the kid is not only not
> going to able to hurt him but anyone else,
he wants to know what motivated the kid to
> do what he did.</B>
Still I think that is not the most appropriate to do. He should assure safeness first (so that the area could be liberated again). After all, (almost?) everyone in the plotline is assuming this ends here.<P><B>> Well, that's almost right - they were indeed after a particular individual. But it'll be
> quite a while before everything will be all right, I'm afraid...</B>
Mmmmm...
I'll bet my playing pieces that it has something to do with the mysterious shadowy figures. There must be a reason for their sights being right before the festival.<P>------------------
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hhhmmmmm.... snipers are effective in most situations (use something else, though, if they have armoured units, and you nothing but snipers, you're screwed)<P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
<B>Both of the last posts are very close to the
mark. The three troublemakeres were indeed
hoping that there would be an altercation
that would make the friction between human
and furry society worse because of their not
really being armed (never mind that security
personnel have to treat someone that appears
to be armed as though they ARE until it can
be proved otherwise; all human society would
care about is that they really weren't, and
that they got hurt by evil beasts) and it is
also true that the situation isn't really
over yet - and that someone was indeed being
targeted...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Interesting points, Gene! (What am I saying?! You wrote the story!) It sounds like their surface mission was being given the "fake" armaments, told to seek out a particular person, and make as much trouble with the festival, and security, as possible along the way.<P>Any success they had would have been a bonus, but the real mission seems to have been kept secret from 'em.<P>But, of course, I figure that things will turn out all right in the end, though it may be a very bumpy, scary, nasty road getting there!<P>-- ArchTeryx<p>[This message has been edited by ArchTeryx (edited 12-08-2001).]

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adult kids, gene? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> hehehehehe<P>------------------
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Those bad boys zigged when they should've zagged. The same goes for Avariss, that he's going to have to do uglier than that to contaminate the human-animal bond. For sure Avariss is going to have a fit over this failed plot.<P>I dare Avariss to get connected with some terrorist network if he wants to be extra-satanic against HIS beast-foes. But then again, that'd be too extreme. But what else is a power-hungry villain supposed to do for his own evil benefits?<P>But good work for Martin and I'Brolent. (*Claps in applause for the two!*)

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jamie Jalecki:
<B>Those bad boys zigged when they should've zagged. The same goes for Avariss, that he's going to have to do uglier than that to contaminate the human-animal bond. For sure Avariss is going to have a fit over this failed plot.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>But has the plot failed?
I say the Three Bad Stooges were set up. If they caused trouble, that would be fine and dandy (for Mikey), but whatever trouble they could stir up probably would not cause much of an outcry. After all, claims of 'furry brutality' probably pop up now and again on an unfortunately regular basis.
Despite all his faults, Mikey is no dummy. I estimate that there are at least two or three layers of flunkies between him and the Three Bad Stooges. The flunky who set up the Three Bad Stooges means to use them as a diversion while he/she goes after the real target. This flunky will be far more dangerous than the Three Bad Stooges as he/she obviously has more brains in his/her skull and might be more subtle. We may not know exactly who this flunky is until <I>after</I> he/she has struck.
But here's a thought: is the flunky human? Wouldn't it be the height of irony if, once all is said and done, the Mikey underling above the flunky, hired a <I>furry</I>?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArchTeryx:
<B>Interesting points, Gene! (What am I saying?! You wrote the story!) It sounds like their surface mission was being given the "fake" armaments, told to seek out a particular person, and make as much trouble with the festival, and security, as possible along the way.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The biggest question in my mind is: why kids? If there's Avarris' fingers in this, even indirectly, it wouldn't be any intelligent assigning a specific mission (even if it's "make noise so that we can do what we want") to kids.<P>------------------
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Biggest question #2: why the heck is I'brolend wondering instead of eventually getting the troublemaker kid under control? Isn't it common robbery with fake weapons so that they can flee without confronts?<P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jamie Jalecki:
<B>...contaminate the human-animal bond...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I only see a weak and inconsistent bond in this universe. When we see human "popular opinion" (meaning they come from undeveloped characters), it's always against furries. There's only one <A HREF="http://www.genecatlow.com/d/20010806.html" TARGET=_blank>exception</A>, and it doesn't last its own page in peace.<P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jamie Jalecki:
<B>Mm-hm, despite those boys have just about been caught, two of them now have a better idea up their sleeves, as they've glanced at the appearance of...Steven! As the estranged son of his heartless father, poor Steven is a pawn in this conspiracy, overall.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Really? It's starting to look like he was the target all along! That was something I hadn't thought of -- I thought the real target was Furriston security, with the human-furry relationship being secondary. Looks like the real target may have been a human -- Steven Avariss, no less.<P>Does not bode well!<P>-- ArchTeryx

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Mm-hm, despite those boys have just about been caught, two of them now have a better idea up their sleeves, as they've glanced at the appearance of...Steven! As the estranged son of his heartless father, poor Steven is a pawn in this conspiracy, overall.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ekevu Cheetah:
<B>So said genecatlow:
> Which would get a more emotional reaction in human society?</B>
HOLY EXCREMENT!!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/eek.gif"> That guy is smart!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, he is... and he has a number of willing
associates to do his bidding.<B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
> But I'Brolent is a very moral individual, and now that it's clear the kid is not only not
> going to able to hurt him but anyone else,
he wants to know what motivated the kid to
> do what he did.</B>
Still I think that is not the most appropriate to do. He should assure safeness first (so that the area could be liberated again). After all, (almost?) everyone in the plotline is assuming this ends here.
[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Joleen has the area blocked off already, and
two of the three are in custody. Yes, they
are assuming that the incident is under
control, but what happens next will be
something they wouldn't have been expecting
anyway...<B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
> Well, that's almost right - they were indeed after a particular individual. But it'll be
> quite a while before everything will be all right, I'm afraid...</B>
Mmmmm...
I'll bet my playing pieces that it has something to do with the mysterious shadowy figures. There must be a reason for their sights being right before the festival.
[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The shadowy creatures *do* figure into things,
but a little later on.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CyberCorn Entropic:
<B> But has the plot failed?
I say the Three Bad Stooges were set up. If they caused trouble, that would be fine and dandy (for Mikey), but whatever trouble they could stir up probably would not cause much of an outcry. After all, claims of 'furry brutality' probably pop up now and again on an unfortunately regular basis.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, such claims are indeed made more than
they should - not only made, but blown out of
proportion by the human news media. But in
this case, it couls easily have been more
than a mere case of 'furry brutality'... if
things had gone just a little differently,
one or more of those kids could have been
<I>killed...</I><B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Despite all his faults, Mikey is no dummy. I estimate that there are at least two or three layers of flunkies between him and the Three Bad Stooges. The flunky who set up the Three Bad Stooges means to use them as a diversion while he/she goes after the real target. This flunky will be far more dangerous than the Three Bad Stooges as he/she obviously has more brains in his/her skull and might be more subtle. We may not know exactly who this flunky is until <I>after</I> he/she has struck.
But here's a thought: is the flunky human? Wouldn't it be the height of irony if, once all is said and done, the Mikey underling above the flunky, hired a <I>furry</I>?
Trust no one!
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Such intrigues, unfortunately, have been known
to happen. But in this case, there's something
going on that's even more Machiavellian than
a simple case of some young troublemakers
trying to disrupt the Festival. The one that
was carrying the non-dangerous weapon didn't
answer I'Brolent's question, and it's an
important one. These three were willing to
put themselves in a position where they could
have been not merely injured, but killed.
What would motivate them to take such a
chance?

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ekevu Cheetah:
<B> I only see a weak and inconsistent bond in this universe. When we see human "popular opinion" (meaning they come from undeveloped characters), it's always against furries. There's only one <A HREF="http://exception" TARGET=_blank>exception</A> , and it doesn't last its own page in peace.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not quite always. Maxine isn't against furries,
neither is Steven. And the Grandville Days
Festival would be populated only by furries
if every single human were against them.<P>

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArchTeryx:
<B> Really? It's starting to look like he was the target all along! That was something I hadn't thought of -- I thought the real target was Furriston security, with the human-furry relationship being secondary. Looks like the real target may have been a human -- Steven Avariss, no less.<P>Does not bode well!<P>-- ArchTeryx</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You're right... though he was not necessarily
the 'target' of violence, they were indeed
looking for him all along.<P>

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