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If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:44 am
by NinjaNezumi
I just want to point this out because people keep using the word incorrectly:

Comic means something that contains "light content" - as in elevated feelings. Cartoon is the proper term of artistic drawings. Animation is the proper term used for things such as Bugs Bunny or Nightmare Before Christmas. There's Stop Motion Animation, Animated Cartoons, etc... (Anime is called Anime because it's japanese shorthand for Animated - yes they used an "English" term).


Now as far as my comic - I've got two comics going, I've not yet put one on Comic Genesis because I'm currently submitting it for proposals. PandaKing - My script can work for an animated cartoon, or a videogame. There are lots of fights in pandaking, depending on when I can get to it.

Puppy Rayn - I'm preparing simple animation as we speak for a Typing Game I plan on distributing for free to pre-schools and making available for download to individuals. By simple I mean REALLY simple. Think Badly Animated Man simple. But, for an "educational game" I won't need too much complexity. The animations I need to work on are Puppy Rayn running/barking (total of around 12 images), his friend chester is only around 6-12 images. Nice Sylphe will only be about 3-6 non-animated stock images that are used to tell the kid how to play. Konekomimi will need about 14 images I think if I counted right. Then I have to make images for the backgrounds and finish my font file that's going to be used for the physical game. The Fairies will be as many images as different fairies I want to insert. This thing is gonna take me a long time to finish :(
I'd love to see Puppy Rayn as a cartoon :D I think that'd be awesomes.

You can see Puppy Rayn on my facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NinjaNezumi


So I think VideoGame is the best option for me to choose ^_^

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:58 am
by Alias Pseudonym
I would like to point out that prescriptive linguistics are lame. That is, you don't tell people how to use words. You observe how they actually do use them. In modern English 'comic' is commonly used to describe sequential art that tells a story or a gag or whatever, and 'cartoon' is generally used to describe an animated program, particularly silly, slapstick ones like Bugs Bunny. Ironically this has lead to 'cartoon' having more lighthearted connotations than 'comic' because comic books are getting very dark in tone of late, but the terms still stand. Comedy, in it's original sense, refers to a story having a happy ending, not to it being funny. However, almost all plays that don't end tragically were funny, so its current meaning stuck, and I doubt anyone would dispute that. If you want you could refer to a comic book with an unhappy ending as a tragic, but nobody would know what you were talking about.

Word, words.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:27 am
by Cope
You guys, a cartoon is obviously a preliminary sketch made for an art piece.

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:39 am
by NinjaNezumi
Alias Pseudonym wrote:I would like to point out that prescriptive linguistics are lame. That is, you don't tell people how to use words. You observe how they actually do use them. In modern English 'comic' is commonly used to describe sequential art that tells a story or a gag or whatever,
Not in my dictionaries. Even Mirriam Webster states that the 3rd definition of Comic is a term relating to a comic strip section. i.e. it's incorrect slang used in slight reference restricted to the newspaper term "comic strips". It is not an accepted term used for anyone who tosses images around on a piece of paper.

You don't join a "Comic Union" if your strip is nationally syndicated. You join the American Cartoonists of America, Northwestern Cartoonists, etc...

F you're an ANIMATOR the union or organization to which you belong has the word ANIMATOR in it.

I'm so fed up with the general members of this modern generation I will gladly correct anyone who misuses or mispronounces words. It's gotten so bad, some idiots try to pronounce Llama as "Yama" because they're so stupid they think it's a spanish word (like that moron archaeology department head of Yale. YES a professor at Yale actually pronounced Llama as Yama).


So, sorry you don't like me correcting people. I'm still gonna do it :twisted:

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:17 pm
by Alias Pseudonym
Right, you go on correcting people until the weight of language shift does it's work and the word 'webcomic' worms its way into Websters, and then it'll all be good.

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:21 pm
by Komiyan
No you guys we clearly all got it wrong, quickly Kisai we are now CartoonGenesis with our webcartoons!

How about GRAPHICNOVELGENESIS

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:32 pm
by Cope
Komiyan wrote:we are now CartoonGenesis
Don't you mean Toonspace?

Re: How about GRAPHICNOVELGENESIS

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:37 pm
by Killbert-Robby
Cope wrote:
Komiyan wrote:we are now CartoonGenesis
Don't you mean Toonspace?
No no no Toonspace is the parent company, but this is still the CartoonGenesis Bulletin Board System. Silly World Wide Web politics.

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:02 pm
by VeryCuddlyCornpone
I'll call up Alcoholic Waterfowl so they can learn from our mistake

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:15 pm
by Killbert-Robby
VeryCuddlyCornpone wrote:I'll call up Alcoholic Waterfowl so they can learn from our mistake
Surely you mean A Crouching Maneuver Carried Out While Inebriated, or do I need to remind you what the definition of duck is?

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:08 pm
by VinnieD
And just try telling that whole comic vs cartoon argument to Marvel Comics and DC comics. Not to mention Image comics, Darkhorse Comics, IDW Comics, and Wildstorm comics.

I tend to use cartoon as a means of describing a style of art sitting in a mid point between realism and abstract (and covering varying degrees no less) describing a style of using lines, tones, and colors to symbolically represent (rather than photorealistically depict) an object.

It is acceptable to call both animation, and non-animated features "Cartoons," so long as they fall within this range of the artistic spectrum. You're also forgetting photocomics which can fall within the area of sequential art, but are clearly not cartoons.

More recently in cinema you also find animation that isn't defined as a cartoon, such as the recent Transformers movies which are heavily CGI thus considered Animation, but without any physical act of drawing, and their entirely photorealistic appearance, wouldn't fall under the category of cartoon.

And to answer the original question.

1. I do update regularly. If I don't it's because I'm simply not physically able to.

2. I'm already busy working on the next one. Though any errors pointed out I'll try not to repeat in the future. It's a living media.

3. I consider it a failing of any conversation here to capture my attention long enough to require a po....wonder what's on TV.

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:15 pm
by Bustertheclown
I'm glad I missed out on the needless semantic argument. We can own both words, if we want, and even use them interchangeably in many situations. It's alright. English is an evolving language.
NinjaNezumi wrote:
I'm so fed up with the general members of this modern generation I will gladly correct anyone who misuses or mispronounces words. It's gotten so bad, some idiots try to pronounce Llama as "Yama" because they're so stupid they think it's a spanish word (like that moron archaeology department head of Yale. YES a professor at Yale actually pronounced Llama as Yama).


So, sorry you don't like me correcting people. I'm still gonna do it :twisted:
So, I was talking to a woman from Peru the other day, and she pronounced the word "hyama." Should I have corrected her?

Re: If your comic wasn't in comic form

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:28 pm
by Fishies
Is it time for the dictionary fight yet? I've been practicing my throw.