The many adventures of Strawman

Nyke · Post by **Nyke** » Sat Dec 06, 2003 7:58 pm

Okay rules:
I'll bring up a statement.
It is a straw man.
Make a straw man of my argument and burn it down.
Repeat.

Or start a fresh straw man.
Use as many logistical fallacies as you can.

I'll start:
"Americans are the personficiations of gullibility"

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:32 pm

what?

Kensou X · Post by **Kensou X** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:05 am

Haha! Good one. OK, this is fun. Next strawman.

Jaster! · Post by **Jaster!** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 10:25 am

DarkMagician wrote:"Americans are the personficiations of gullibility"

I don't believe that.

Terotrous · Post by **Terotrous** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 10:42 am

DarkMagician wrote:"Americans are the personficiations of gullibility"

You learn something new every day.

Orion · Post by **Orion** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:00 pm

"Americans are the personficiations of gullibility"

So, you hate america! Obviously you're a communist. But communism is a godless, totalitarian form of government which failed years ago. anyone who supports communism must be crazy.

(apologies to any communists in the audience)

Nyke · Post by **Nyke** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:35 pm

orion wrote:
"Americans are the personficiations of gullibility"
So, you hate america! Obviously you're a communist. But communism is a godless, totalitarian form of government which failed years ago. anyone who supports communism must be crazy.

(apologies to any communists in the audience)

A communist must've done you wrong, and now you're blaming the whole lot.

And if you tolerate communism, then you must tolerate socialism, and Nazis, and Charles Manson! What type of sick fuck tolerates Charles Manson!

VileTerror · Post by **VileTerror** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:49 pm

This type.

Superhappygoodtimes · Post by **Superhappygoodtimes** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:09 pm

Americans are pretty damn gullibe, I should know, I live among them every day, and *sigh* am one myself...

oh to be canadian *looks off dreamily*

Sortelli · Post by **Sortelli** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:53 pm

To be Canadian is to be an American with an inferiority complex!

And ... and snow shoes.

Matt Lim · Post by **Matt Lim** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:10 am

DarkMagician wrote:
orion wrote:
"Americans are the personficiations of gullibility"
So, you hate america! Obviously you're a communist. But communism is a godless, totalitarian form of government which failed years ago. anyone who supports communism must be crazy.

(apologies to any communists in the audience)
A communist must've done you wrong, and now you're blaming the whole lot.

And if you tolerate communism, then you must tolerate socialism, and Nazis, and Charles Manson! What type of sick fuck tolerates Charles Manson!

What do you have against Charles Manson? This must mean that you hate men and are a feminazi! Curse you to heck!

Jaster! · Post by **Jaster!** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:56 am

Sortelli wrote:To be Canadian is to be an American with an inferiority complex!

And ... and snow shoes.

In that case, wouldn't Americans just be Canadians with a superiority complex? And, uh... sneakers?

Nyke · Post by **Nyke** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:24 am

Matt Lim wrote:
DarkMagician wrote:
orion wrote:So, you hate america! Obviously you're a communist. But communism is a godless, totalitarian form of government which failed years ago. anyone who supports communism must be crazy.

(apologies to any communists in the audience)
A communist must've done you wrong, and now you're blaming the whole lot.

And if you tolerate communism, then you must tolerate socialism, and Nazis, and Charles Manson! What type of sick fuck tolerates Charles Manson!
What do you have against Charles Manson? This must mean that you hate men and are a feminazi! Curse you to heck!

Heck? You must be one of those little kids who don't know anything. Go back and play your D&D, and let the grown-ups argue.

And you have the augacity to say I hate men, when I am quite obviously a man myself! You all don't have any idea what you're arguing about!!!

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:35 am

I'm a male lesbian!

Orion · Post by **Orion** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:26 am

DarkMagician wrote:Heck? You must be one of those little kids who don't know anything. Go back and play your D&D, and let the grown-ups argue.

Oh So you are one of those hyper-christians who think RPGs are evil! You probably hate other religions and like to beat up teachers who teach evolution.
Well everyone knows that people like you never listen to reason. Since you won't listen to our arguments then we shouldn't listen to yours.

Nishichi27 · Post by **Nishichi27** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:15 pm

WHAT IS A STRAW MAN?!! I'm so confizzled.

And... uh..... go Satan! Woohoo!

Orion · Post by **Orion** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:57 pm

For those who have not had a logic class

A straw man is a logical fallacies (bad logic) meant to discredit your opponent's statement or arguement. esentially you take whatever your opponent says and misrepresent or intentionally misinterpret to give him/her a position (often more extreme or ridiculous than their real one) that they do not really hold. then you prove the false postion wrong (in this case prove it wrong using many more logical fallacies) or unsound and act as though this disproves the original arguement.

for examples look at the arguements presented by me, DarkMagician, and Matt Lim as examples.

While were at it why don't we start on a new statement to straw man, this one shuld be easy.

"There should be a ban on civilians owning guns."

Nyke · Post by **Nyke** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:17 pm

orion wrote:"There should be a ban on civilians owning guns."

Hitler thought so, too. You Nazi bastard! Let us Americans own our rifles in peace!

VileTerror · Post by **VileTerror** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:23 pm

You feel the implements of destruction are devices of peace? Own your guns if you want, but don't think for a moment that there will be peace.

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:33 pm

So guns are dangerous? I'll bet you'll want to ban tobacco next!

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