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Ah, "The man who fell to Earth", challenging film definitely, dissapointed many people who went to see it expecting Bowie vehicle. Alas Nicholas Roeg is one of the great directors who only happens to like to see rock stars in his films.
Phact0rri wrote: and I note that no one is at all interested in how the new Depeche Mode record sounds... fine I won't tell you!
I got the album. But I had no time to listen to it yet. I suppose I'll have to if Maria manages to drag me to their show next month.

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This maria I like her already.
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I don't think we'll go in the end. Tickets aren't inexpensive, and she's saving money, and I'm not enthusiastic about it since this year's Exit festival is supposed to be really good. Patty Smith, Madness, Moby...
Sadly it's happening at the same time as David Byrne's show, in a different city. Dammit. David Byrne's was one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Also next week we have Leningrad Cowboys but I won't be able to go because of some wedding schreduled long ago. :(
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Why aren't you talking about Krautrock?

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McDuffies wrote:Ah, "The man who fell to Earth", challenging film definitely, dissapointed many people who went to see it expecting Bowie vehicle. Alas Nicholas Roeg is one of the great directors who only happens to like to see rock stars in his films.
I love it, personally. But then I'm a fan of complicated artistic vision, skinny, naked David Bowie, and failure.

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Well from this point of view it's much less of a failure, what with being considered cult film and Roeg being hailed as one of greatest Brittish directors... Of course I pick "Don't look now" cause I prefere skinny and naked Julie Christie.

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McDuffies wrote:Well from this point of view it's much less of a failure, what with being considered cult film and Roeg being hailed as one of greatest Brittish directors...
The film isn't the failure, the main character is. He is an utter, utter failure, and I adore him because of it.

Of course I pick "Don't look now" cause I prefere skinny and naked Julie Christie.
Ew, naked Donald Sutherland.
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McDuffies wrote:
KWill wrote:something
Why aren't you talking about Krautrock?
Probably because I've never heard it before =D

And these are from the LJ thread:
McDuffies wrote:You can start by saying what music you listen to right now. There's several paralel conversations going on at any time, there's always Senshi, Duff and sometimes Dawg discussing rap and new jack swing, and Keff, Phact and me talking about indy rock, but other musical genres that we aren't interested in are a fair game too
Phact0rri wrote:anyone who wants to discuss any variety of electro should come to the music thread! I feel so lonely having conversations with myself. *l*
That's another issue I have, I'm not much of a genre person. I'm less attracted to genres than I am to fast music with a steady beat, plenty of texture, and female vocals. Hence I like symphonic metal and electronic music and strongly dislike RnB and rap. There's also a couple bands I listen to that don't really fit into established genres, such as l'âme immortelle and In Extremo. Hence I don't really feel involved in genre discussions.

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KWill wrote:
McDuffies wrote:
KWill wrote:something
Why aren't you talking about Krautrock?
Probably because I've never heard it before =D
Oh yeah, over there it's probably called just "rock".
Anyways I like Neu!.
That's another issue I have, I'm not much of a genre person. I'm less attracted to genres than I am to fast music with a steady beat, plenty of texture, and female vocals. Hence I like symphonic metal and electronic music and strongly dislike RnB and rap. There's also a couple bands I listen to that don't really fit into established genres, such as l'âme immortelle and In Extremo. Hence I don't really feel involved in genre discussions.
I don't think any of us are genre people (well maybe Keff but we blame her youthful years for that :P ). I have preferations in music which make me more likely listener of one genre or the other, just like anyone else. Genres mean to me as much as they make it easier to describe what I'm listening at the moment and to potentially track a band or few with similar characteristics.
It's easier to say Chamber Pop than to name seven bands, but that doesn't mean that I'm listening to Rufus Wainright, right?
I don't meet people who consciously choose music by a genre name very often.

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McDuffies wrote:Oh yeah, over there it's probably called just "rock".
Anyways I like Neu!.
I looked it up. It was before my time...
I don't think any of us are genre people (well maybe Keff but we blame her youthful years for that :P ). I have preferations in music which make me more likely listener of one genre or the other, just like anyone else. Genres mean to me as much as they make it easier to describe what I'm listening at the moment and to potentially track a band or few with similar characteristics.
It's easier to say Chamber Pop than to name seven bands, but that doesn't mean that I'm listening to Rufus Wainright, right?
I don't meet people who consciously choose music by a genre name very often.
It's mainly why I don't feel comfortable jumping into genre discussions. I care so little for it though that explaining to someone what I'm listening to on my MP3 player gets complicated. For one, I have three different versions of "The Sun Always Shines on TV" on it. There's a few seconds of rap as well, in the opening of "Nobody Listens to Techno".

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McDuffies wrote:I don't think any of us are genre people (well maybe Keff but we blame her youthful years for that :P ).
Heh, I swear I listen to things besides indie rock. Sometimes it's not even Canadian, dohoho. It just so happens that when I'm doing anything other than reading or writing, I like to listen to loud music with a strong rhythm, gimmicky instrumentation, and perhaps strange vocals. (Actually! I've been weirdly enjoying the Youngblood Brass Band lately and if we're going to stick to genre classifications, they self-identify as "riot jazz.")

But anyway, I'll listen to just about anything if someone recommends it -- so KWill, don't worry about describing your music; just start linking some videos for these bands and songs you keep name-dropping! :D

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KWill wrote:
McDuffies wrote:Oh yeah, over there it's probably called just "rock".
Anyways I like Neu!.
I looked it up. It was before my time...
Hm... no kidding that you don't know about the main achievement in rock music of your country?
(Actually! I've been weirdly enjoying the Youngblood Brass Band lately and if we're going to stick to genre classifications, they self-identify as "riot jazz.")
If they're recent, they're indi.
Jk, I'll go check it out now,

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Keffria wrote:But anyway, I'll listen to just about anything if someone recommends it -- so KWill, don't worry about describing your music; just start linking some videos for these bands and songs you keep name-dropping! :D
I've always been uncomfortable recommending anything, as my taste in music has been generally incompatible with most other people's I grew up with.
So, stuff I listen to:

In Extremo - medieval metal, since the band uses unconventional instruments more typically associated with medieval music in addition to percussion and e-guitars. The lyrics will typically be in modern German, but old German is not uncommon and they've done a couple other European languages and their older counterparts.
Erdbeermund (German)
Liam (Gaelic)
Fontaine la jolie

L'Âme Imortelle - Hard to describe because the style changes over time. Used to be heavy on electronic music before they moved towards metal instruments and are now drifting back to primarily electronic music again. They've referred to themselves as Neue Deutsche Härte, genrewise. Incidentally, the band is Austrian...
Bitterkeit (older)
Stumme Schreie
Es tut mir leid (recent)

And the three versions of "Sun Always Shines on TV":
The original by A-Ha
Dance version by Milk Inc
Symphonic metal by Atrocity
McDuffies wrote:Hm... no kidding that you don't know about the main achievement in rock music of your country?
Oh, I do know about Rammstein =P

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Phact0rri wrote:and I note that no one is at all interested in how the new Depeche Mode record sounds... fine I won't tell you!
I'm interested, please do tell.

In other semi-news, Röyksopp's latest album "Junior" is rather boring IMO. Most reviewers love it, though. The only tracks on it I really like are the two with Karin Dreijer Andersson on vocals, and that's mainly because they remind me vaguely of The Knife.

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KWill wrote:
McDuffies wrote:Hm... no kidding that you don't know about the main achievement in rock music of your country?
Oh, I do know about Rammstein =P
Tsk tsk tsk, that just won't do it. You young whipsnappers don't know your musical history.

I've listened to L'Ame Immortelle while I was in dorm, that's the kind of thing my roommate used to play.
But don't worry folks, he had to listen to a lot of Bowie in return! :twisted:

Paul: it's always funny to hear someone listening to Laibach. They're prolly the only really important musical export from ex-Yu.

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McDuffies wrote:Tsk tsk tsk, that just won't do it. You young whipsnappers don't know your musical history.
:roll:
I'm nearly a quarter century old...

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I've listened to L'Ame Immortelle while I was in dorm, that's the kind of thing my roommate used to play.
I got introduced to them by the guy that did a seminar on the dangers of cults.

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Paul Escobar wrote: The only tracks on it I really like are the two with Karin Dreijer Andersson on vocals, and that's mainly because they remind me vaguely of The Knife.
Have you heard Fever Ray? Karin solo effort. Haven't heard it myself but everyone's wiiiiiiiiiiild for it.
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McDuffies, if you get around to listening to the YBB, also consider trying The Souljazz Orchestra -- the former was recommended to me by last.fm because I'd been listening to the latter's latest album (Manifesto) a lot, although they're more mature-sounding and are more on the afrobeat end of things (ACK GENRES AGAIN). They played an awesome show in London in the fall.
KWill wrote:In Extremo
Totally going to blast some of this when I have to start doing my Old English assignments, haha. And L'Âme Imortelle is just the sort of thing I used to listen to when I was up really late at night working -- good to keep you going.
Yeahduff wrote:Have you heard Fever Ray? Karin solo effort. Haven't heard it myself but everyone's wiiiiiiiiiiild for it.
Yes. (edit: if you're cool with ambient stuff I guess)

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Yeahduff wrote:
Paul Escobar wrote: The only tracks on it I really like are the two with Karin Dreijer Andersson on vocals, and that's mainly because they remind me vaguely of The Knife.
Have you heard Fever Ray? Karin solo effort. Haven't heard it myself but everyone's wiiiiiiiiiiild for it.
Strangely I've only heard bad things about Fever ray.

As to the new Depeche Mode, it is a lot more flat that some of other releases. There's a few stand out tracks, "wrong" is better on the record than it was on the prerelease, Peace is pretty cool, and In Chains is great. But over all it feels very much more akin to Exciter.

The reason to get it is to listen to all the vintage synth in the record, some really neat sounds. THe demo disc that came with some of the deluxe versions is worth it. There's tracks on there that I prefer over the studio ones. Even classics like "walkin' in my shoes" and "personal jesus" I'm finding new love for, that I completely forgot was there.
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I wonder if we can talk about albums that leaked. hmmhmClueshmmm
Also Joker's Daughter.
KWill wrote:
McDuffies wrote:Tsk tsk tsk, that just won't do it. You young whipsnappers don't know your musical history.
:roll:
I'm nearly a quarter century old...
Like I said, young whipsnappers. :P
McDuffies, if you get around to listening to the YBB, also consider trying The Souljazz Orchestra -- the former was recommended to me by last.fm because I'd been listening to the latter's latest album (Manifesto) a lot, although they're more mature-sounding and are more on the afrobeat end of things (ACK GENRES AGAIN). They played an awesome show in London in the fall.
I'll check out. Can't say I like african rhythms and stuff, but I can always add it to the list.

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McDuffies wrote:I wonder if we can talk about albums that leaked. hmmhmClueshmmm
Gonna say YES because I've name-dropped them a couple of times in this thread and I'm glad to finally have someone to gab about it with. :D

I've only listened to the album a couple of times; I identified "Haarp," "Approach the Throne," and "Perfect Fit" as immediately catchy, but the rest of it was already starting to grow on me. There aren't any tracks that I'd identify as weak, but the arrangement is a little off: there's a kind of weird lull in the tracks grouped around "In the Dream" that bothers me, but it picks up again after that and holds your interest 'til the end. So, it's a pretty solid offering, and I will definitely be picking it up once it's commercially available. Also! It's a lot less self-consciously wacky than one might expect from a Unicorns alumnus, for anyone that was put off by that.

Speaking of which, I feel a little sorry for all the ex-members of The Unicorns, because so much of the hype surrounding their new bands comes from their involvement with said group, and The Unicorns only released one album (well, and an EP, I guess), so it's not like they had a chance to screw things up and alienate everyone with a sophomore slump. So much of the fanbase seems to want nothing more than a re-hash of "Who Will Cut Our Hair When We’re Gone?" or at least insists on excessively comparing new efforts to it (It happened to Islands, too), even when - what? - four-fifths of Clues is cobbled together from ex-members of other Canadian bands. Pretty sad.

Actually, as a Band Guy yourself, McDuffies, what's your take on leaks? On one hand, if I listen to an album and enjoy it enough to listen to it for more than a couple of spins, I make a point of buying it on the release date and if I really love it, I make sure to pre-order it so that if I end up burning myself out on it before the release date I'm essentially forced to buy it anyway (basically, I spend all my tip money on music and make good use of sales). The same goes for any other music I download, and I kind of feel as though if I hadn't found a band through internet downloading, I never would have discovered and purchased their music at all, so everyone wins. On the other hand, most downloaders are stupid babies with a huge sense of self-entitlement who won't even purchase merchandise from bands they claim to adore, and I can understand how a musician would get frustrated that shitty-quality leaks are available months before an album's release, potentially killing the buzz on the actual release date. You put in all that effort for some kid to come along and download it in a couple of minutes because they can't wait another month, etc.

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