Girls vs Boys

Lei · Post by **Lei** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:43 am

Yeah.... I like violence and drawing boobies.... >>

TheWhiteWilSmith · Post by **TheWhiteWilSmith** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:43 am

legostargalactica wrote:it's very simple, when men make comics, there are more fart jokes.

I'm proud to say, I've never used a fart joke in Marty Tanenger. However, I did get kind of carried away with vomit humor back in September.

Eve Z. · Post by **Eve Z.** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:09 pm

The webcomic you do reflects your personality. I dunno if I have a girly personality, but I doubt it. I'm pretty sure that a big part of my characters are male, although I like to draw females more than anything else.
I do crave for love, as any human being does and I like making romance scenes with alot of feelings involved in my comic and also in making my comic.
I'm doing a sci-fi webcomic and an everyday-life webcomic starring a boy as the main character, that reflects my clumsy and the 'apparent silly but soon to discover it's not so' side of me and it suits him good, trust me.

Geekblather · Post by **Geekblather** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:55 pm

legostargalactica wrote:
it's very simple, when men make comics, there are more fart jokes.

... and girls make jokes about dookie!

Fabio Ciccone · Post by **Fabio Ciccone** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:56 am

The place where you come from matters too... most webcomics from Brazil (my home country) are different from those of other countries when it comes to storytelling, narrative, sense of humor... unless theyr're Manga, of course

Renard · Post by **Renard** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:21 pm

I'm more curious as to why the male-writer/female-artist dynamic appears to be so pervasive. I can think of several comics that have this set-up, but off the top of my head I can't think of a mixed pairing where it is the other way around.

Anyone have any thoughts on why?

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:04 pm

Renard wrote:I'm more curious as to why the male-writer/female-artist dynamic appears to be so pervasive. I can think of several comics that have this set-up, but off the top of my head I can't think of a mixed pairing where it is the other way around.

Anyone have any thoughts on why?

One example of male artist/female writer: 6x9 College.

As for why, I don't know. But it is unusual; one would think women would be the majority when it came to the writer's role.

KWill · Post by **KWill** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:11 pm

Renard wrote:I'm more curious as to why the male-writer/female-artist dynamic appears to be so pervasive. I can think of several comics that have this set-up, but off the top of my head I can't think of a mixed pairing where it is the other way around.

Anyone have any thoughts on why?

Maybe because men are more likely to be (over)confident enough not to care whether their writing doesn't live up to their drawing skill?

Redtech · Post by **Redtech** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:33 pm

Could easily argue the reverse. We're just arrogant, full stop.

Princess · Post by **Princess** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:03 pm

drowemos wrote:Male often writers have more innuendo were female writers will either steer clear of the subject all together or not hold back at all and be quite graphic.

Totally, I think a lot of my comics are quite biological , jokes about menstruation, childbirth etc, things I would be less likely to do if I was a man.

Jackhass · Post by **Jackhass** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:36 am

Most comics made by girls are entirely drawn in shakes of pink and are filled with ponies and tips on buying shoes.

Drowemos · Post by **Drowemos** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:47 am

Renard wrote:I'm more curious as to why the male-writer/female-artist dynamic appears to be so pervasive. I can think of several comics that have this set-up, but off the top of my head I can't think of a mixed pairing where it is the other way around.

Anyone have any thoughts on why?

Over generlization alert-

In my experice women artist ask less money. I don't know why, but I can get the same or better quality of work from a woman artist for half the price of a man artist. I am not the one setting the prices I just pay what they post as their comssion price.

Renard · Post by **Renard** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:50 am

drowemos wrote:In my experice women artist ask less money. I don't know why, but I can get the same or better quality of work from a woman artist for half the price of a man artist. I am not the one setting the prices I just pay what they post as their comssion price.

So, I can see this from an economic point of view. But this sort of generalized anomaly, where woman price themselves lower than men at a given quality level, should actually repair itself over time. Given two artists with the same quality, you're going to logically commission from the cheaper one. That should lead to the male artist (with the high price) lowering his price to try to entice more commissions and/or the female artist (with the relatively lower price) pricing higher to decrease the number of demands made on her time and to receive more accurate compensation for her time. We might continue to see a price differential if there is some sort of institutional discrimination that leads one to value a male's work over a female's work, despite being objectively the same, but I wonder if that's in play for something of this nature.

So that's for when money exchanges hands, but what about general partnerships?

I would prefer to avoid psychological differences between the genders to find a rational explanation, but I admit that it does seem to go back to there all on its own. Mixed pairings in romantic relationships certainly doesn't provide anything intuitive on its own, because it--again--doesn't offer an answer to fairly wide disparity between male-written-female-drawn comics and female-written-male-drawn comics (thanks Tim for providing an example). Even for partnerships where there isn't that sort of relationship, the dynamic seems to persist.

Seems a little odd.

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:05 am

Jackhass wrote:Most comics made by girls are entirely drawn in shakes of pink and are filled with ponies and tips on buying shoes.

OUCH! Off the top of my head the female created comics I like best are BAD BLOOD (sadly gone now, the website just went down, guess I'll delete her link...damn!) and GALAXION both have bold beautiful black&white art, are story/adventure oriented, and no ponies or shoe shopping. You may be right about the gag-based strips, tho, I wouldn't know as I dislike about 90% of "humor" or "slice-of-life" comics.

Drowemos · Post by **Drowemos** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:09 pm

Renard wrote:
drowemos wrote:In my experice women artist ask less money. I don't know why, but I can get the same or better quality of work from a woman artist for half the price of a man artist. I am not the one setting the prices I just pay what they post as their comssion price.
So that's for when money exchanges hands, but what about general partnerships?

Perhaps is goes to arogance/selfestem. Pehaps women undervalue there skill in general and men overvalue it. I have had some real problems with male artist thinking that they are divine apostles granted their infaliable gift of artistry from the almighty. They are a nighmare to work with. I have never had a female artist cop an attitude or refuese to make a change to a page.

Again this is an unscientific sample but in general I have found women artist are easier to work with but also less cofindent in their skill.

To write a story you have to have a little bit of bravado and self promotion. You have to be sure of what you are doing and not back down from where you want to go with the story.

Perhaps we are talking about agressives here. Where and agressive writer and a peacmaking artist works better than a peacemaking writer and agressive artist.

Eve Z. · Post by **Eve Z.** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:04 pm

I make webcomics for free!

Hug me!

Pattyannboyd · Post by **Pattyannboyd** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:52 am

I've always wanted to defy my gender with the comics I draw, mostly by choosing more masculine genres. Epic fantasy or zombies or random hot lesbian sex. But I always end up throwing something blatantly feminine into my plots. My epic fantasy turned into a giant political upheaval, my zombie story turned into a zombie love story, and my hot lesbian sex story turned into hot lesbians discussing their feelings. It seems I am ultimately just emasculating where I aimed to maintain the testosterone.

Ti-Phil · Post by **Ti-Phil** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:14 am

Eve Z. wrote:I make webcomics for free!

Hug me!

*hugs*

If that "female ask less money than male" for drawing thing is true and that I draw the Volet and Evil Overlords for free, does it mean the female cartoonist give people money so they can draw their stories?

Dallawalla · Post by **Dallawalla** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:48 pm

princess wrote:
drowemos wrote:Male often writers have more innuendo were female writers will either steer clear of the subject all together or not hold back at all and be quite graphic.

Totally, I think a lot of my comics are quite biological , jokes about menstruation, childbirth etc, things I would be less likely to do if I was a man.

As a Guy i feel its my responsibility to fill in the empty niche.

Levi-chan · Post by **Levi-chan** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:51 am

EVERYBODY knows that guy comics are all about kicking ass and punching nuts and taking names and huge throbbing erections visible through a thick set of cargo pants while it pulsates, veins throbbing with rivulets of man juice down the sides of a huge huge bulge with oh god massive manly chests with large tufts of hair and large boots made for kicking kickass kickass kickass kickass hurgh hurgh hurgh