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Sam_Charette
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I collaborate with Mer on my comic, and typicall enjoy it. She's tends to do the artwork, and I tend to do the writing.
We do switch roles from time to time. Sometimes she writes, and sometimes I draw. I like to draw, so I do it when I can, but I'm far slower than she is, which is why she's the main artist.
And I know some people like Evil Jamie don't like that sort of thing, but I don't give a rat's ass. We're doing the comic because we enjoy it, and we do it the way we want to do it
We do switch roles from time to time. Sometimes she writes, and sometimes I draw. I like to draw, so I do it when I can, but I'm far slower than she is, which is why she's the main artist.
And I know some people like Evil Jamie don't like that sort of thing, but I don't give a rat's ass. We're doing the comic because we enjoy it, and we do it the way we want to do it
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CaptainClaude
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Rkolter
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I'm way better than sex!LibertyCabbage wrote:I thought Gabe is the artist and Tycho is the writer...
...and rkolter, c'mon, you can't get down on a guy for choosing sex over you =/
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CaptainClaude
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Evil Jamie!
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Well hey, I'm not saying it's all bad, especially is the styles are similar. I mean Eastman and Laird alternated between pages with the original Ninja Turtles comic and the thing was awesome. If you can pull it of, awesome, so much the better. If you can't pull it off, then it just wont be an as enjoyable read to me.Sam_Charette wrote: And I know some people like Evil Jamie don't like that sort of thing, but I don't give a rat's ass. We're doing the comic because we enjoy it, and we do it the way we want to do it
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Wishmaster
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I'm more used to working as a writer, but that's been changing. For me the artist pulling teeth to get the next script situation is usually reversed. More often than not I have the script ready to go and the artist flakes on me, some worse than others (they know who they are!). I've worked with my current collaborator for years on different, mostly print oriented (but still unprinted for the most part) comics. Our older webcomics were almost all superhero fare, so we're trying something new on nearly every level with this one.
Aside from a few 24-Hour Comics, which was the big inspiration to work together more prolifically, I never pencilled all that much. Now, I'm doing most all of the pencils and my collaborator cleans them up and inks them on the computer. I can work solo, but in all honesty I'm not much of an inker and feel like I can really cut loose when left to concentrate on just the scripts. I kind of fell into drawing this one by accident and it's been an interesting experience. I'm limited to the stuff I can functionally, if not gracefully, render and the writing is much more by seat of my pants.
The stuff I get other people to draw is usually a lot prettier, but this one is my baby warts and all.
Aside from a few 24-Hour Comics, which was the big inspiration to work together more prolifically, I never pencilled all that much. Now, I'm doing most all of the pencils and my collaborator cleans them up and inks them on the computer. I can work solo, but in all honesty I'm not much of an inker and feel like I can really cut loose when left to concentrate on just the scripts. I kind of fell into drawing this one by accident and it's been an interesting experience. I'm limited to the stuff I can functionally, if not gracefully, render and the writing is much more by seat of my pants.
The stuff I get other people to draw is usually a lot prettier, but this one is my baby warts and all.
And after a while, decided just to start over on something fresh.
Like M2 said earlier, I write and have a few artists illustrate my comic. Only thing is, I started with 4, and one of them flaked right off the bat, arguing with me about everything and never actually drawing any comics >_>. And then two of them are too busy to work full time on it. So I was down to one person, until RA volunteered to help 
My original plan (That I'm still shooting for) is to get enough artists to go on a biweekly schedule.
My original plan (That I'm still shooting for) is to get enough artists to go on a biweekly schedule.
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Blackaby
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Hey, I like your comic! Sorry I never read before - I didn't know it was up yet!rock_dash wrote:Like M2 said earlier, I write and have a few artists illustrate my comic. Only thing is, I started with 4, and one of them flaked right off the bat, arguing with me about everything and never actually drawing any comics >_>. And then two of them are too busy to work full time on it. So I was down to one person, until RA volunteered to help
My original plan (That I'm still shooting for) is to get enough artists to go on a biweekly schedule.
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Mooman
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Tried this relationship once. I was the writer.
It was all a horrible mess, cause the artist would take months to draw one strip, and between each one he'd keep changing his style drastically. It didn't help that the scripts I was writing then were your run-of-the-mill student-gamers-witty-comments etc etc crap. He also had this attitude that we'd 'be on keenspace for a year then get our own servers and r00l the internet and get lots of $$$s'. Then, in an unrelated incident he threw a hissy hit and nuked the site. But by that time I couldn't care less about that comic...
And it had a REALLY crappy name...
But the good thing that came out of it is that I joined the forums, so huzzah. Of course now I'm in a similar situation, in that I have a load of scripts done and no comics, but since it's me, I'm sure I can forgive myself. 8)
It was all a horrible mess, cause the artist would take months to draw one strip, and between each one he'd keep changing his style drastically. It didn't help that the scripts I was writing then were your run-of-the-mill student-gamers-witty-comments etc etc crap. He also had this attitude that we'd 'be on keenspace for a year then get our own servers and r00l the internet and get lots of $$$s'. Then, in an unrelated incident he threw a hissy hit and nuked the site. But by that time I couldn't care less about that comic...
And it had a REALLY crappy name...
But the good thing that came out of it is that I joined the forums, so huzzah. Of course now I'm in a similar situation, in that I have a load of scripts done and no comics, but since it's me, I'm sure I can forgive myself. 8)
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Wishmaster
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This sounds all too familiar. Though not as bad as months on one strips some of my collaborators would take so long that the style changed from issue to issue or even page to page. My stuff isn't all that pretty, but if it doesn't get drawn the only person I have to blame is myself.Mooman wrote:Tried this relationship once. I was the writer.
It was all a horrible mess, cause the artist would take months to draw one strip, and between each one he'd keep changing his style drastically.
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Evil Jamie!
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Haha, I've been flying Solo with J&N for ages now. Nick and I originally bounced ideas off each other and came up with the stories, and I wrote them up and drew them, so the transition was smooth. I have had to work with people who havn't deliverd art or scripts on time though. So ANNOYING!Toxic wrote:Uh oh, trouble in paradise with Nick?Evil Jamie! wrote:Both are pretty cool, unless the person you're working with isn't reliable, in which case it's freakin' stressful.
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Laemkral
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I do collaboration work. I mainly handle the workload, act as the face/voice of the comic, and am the main force behind the comic, but between me, and my co-collaborators Jason, Aaron (two Aarons, I know), and Cameron, we're all writers, and I and the other Aaron do the artwork and tech stuff, though we're gonna higher someone to design us a webpage.
Keeping everyone focused, when necessary, is tricky. We rarely sit down and work on anything, mainly just do our own jobs as it's staffed out, at our own pace, and some how manage to make deadlines.
I think that if you can collaborate and do it well, especially for writing, it makes the comic that much better. Gags that come from 4 people will be more numerous, more diverse, and better than if just one person was the idea man.
Of course, visually interpreting them is trickier if the writer isn't the artist.
Keeping everyone focused, when necessary, is tricky. We rarely sit down and work on anything, mainly just do our own jobs as it's staffed out, at our own pace, and some how manage to make deadlines.
I think that if you can collaborate and do it well, especially for writing, it makes the comic that much better. Gags that come from 4 people will be more numerous, more diverse, and better than if just one person was the idea man.
Of course, visually interpreting them is trickier if the writer isn't the artist.
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I'd do a collaboration if it weren't for the fact that people get crappy.
I don't mean in their talent; I could write or art for someone. It's a matter of work ethic; I make it a priority to get the comic done on time and a lot of people who get into this have no idea how much work it will be. So, I'd do it with someone who's already gotten experience doing a comic and already knows what the workload is.
As for what I read, most of them are solo-jobs, Penny Arcade being the exception. David Willis, Mark Shallow, Chris Straub... all great solo acts, and plenty more.
One comic I enjoy has a weird partnership. Blood Wing has a writer/artist, and then a storyboarder, who will mark out the angles and way that the story is presented per strip. The artist told me that this is useful because it keeps him from being lazy.
I don't mean in their talent; I could write or art for someone. It's a matter of work ethic; I make it a priority to get the comic done on time and a lot of people who get into this have no idea how much work it will be. So, I'd do it with someone who's already gotten experience doing a comic and already knows what the workload is.
As for what I read, most of them are solo-jobs, Penny Arcade being the exception. David Willis, Mark Shallow, Chris Straub... all great solo acts, and plenty more.
One comic I enjoy has a weird partnership. Blood Wing has a writer/artist, and then a storyboarder, who will mark out the angles and way that the story is presented per strip. The artist told me that this is useful because it keeps him from being lazy.
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