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[Bustertheclown]

Watch it. I carry the Oxford English Dictionary with me at all times. It's in DVD form, but I sharpen the disks up to be used as throwing stars.

[Dr Neo Lao]

As for the topic at hand, I would make my comics in novel form. It allows the reader to use their imagination.

It's gotten so bad, some idiots try to pronounce Llama as "Yama" because they're so stupid they think it's a spanish word (like that moron archaeology department head of Yale. YES a professor at Yale actually pronounced Llama as Yama).

I don't know about where you are, but pretty much everyone in South America refers to the animal as "Yama" since that is the way a double L is pronounced in Spanish. If we are talking about the animal, then generally I'd refer to it by its spanish name and pronunciation (but I'm biased, since I'm from Chile). On the other hand, I hear most English speakers (and others who can't pronounce the double L properly) with an English pronunciation of "Lama". As far as I am aware, it was named by the Spaniards which would sort of give precedent to Spanish pronunciation. If we're not talking about the animal, then ignore me.

Either or, it's all semantics. You pronounce it your way, I'll pronounce it my way. I can't convince you and you can't convince me and we'll never meet face to face so it really does not matter who pronounces what and how. Unless it was being written "lama" instead of "llama" - then it might get confusing.

[NinjaNezumi]

As for the topic at hand, I would make my comics in novel form. It allows the reader to use their imagination.

It's gotten so bad, some idiots try to pronounce Llama as "Yama" because they're so stupid they think it's a spanish word (like that moron archaeology department head of Yale. YES a professor at Yale actually pronounced Llama as Yama).

I don't know about where you are, but pretty much everyone in South America refers to the animal as "Yama" since that is the way a double L is pronounced in Spanish. If we are talking about the animal, then generally I'd refer to it by its spanish name and pronunciation (but I'm biased, since I'm from Chile). On the other hand, I hear most English speakers (and others who can't pronounce the double L properly) with an English pronunciation of "Lama". As far as I am aware, it was named by the Spaniards which would sort of give precedent to Spanish pronunciation. If we're not talking about the animal, then ignore me.

Either or, it's all semantics. You pronounce it your way, I'll pronounce it my way. I can't convince you and you can't convince me and we'll never meet face to face so it really does not matter who pronounces what and how. Unless it was being written "lama" instead of "llama" - then it might get confusing.

See, now I want to point something out:

When someone makes a point to produce an example concerning people who don't know what they're talking about, it's usually baited to find out whom would try to defend those people. In my case, it helps me to know who knows what they're talking about when any serious debates arise. It's generally best not to try to defend any point in a position without actually doing research into that position.


Llama (the pack animal) is not a Spanish word.

It is a Quechua Indian word.

It was never translated into Spanish.

I have a number of friends who live in Peru and Mexico. Let me promise you, they openly laughed at and called that guy an idiot.

[NinjaNezumi]

Watch it. I carry the Oxford English Dictionary with me at all times. It's in DVD form, but I sharpen the disks up to be used as throwing stars.

As far as I'm concerned, that's the only logical use for an OED. The editors are idiots and are routinely forced to make retractions.

[NinjaNezumi]

Normally I consolidate my posts, but for some reason the web is really messing up causing a few of my posts to jump around and making it difficult to type or copy/paste.

And just try telling that whole comic vs cartoon argument to Marvel Comics and DC comics. Not to mention Image comics, Darkhorse Comics, IDW Comics, and Wildstorm comics.

You don't understand the word comic : Comic is a word describing the content not the medium. There are a number of "comic books" which have photo insertions just like you described below. The COMIC portion is the "LIGHT CONTENT" NOT the "DRAWN CONTENT"

It is acceptable to call both animation, and non-animated features "Cartoons," so long as they fall within this range of the artistic spectrum. You're also forgetting photocomics which can fall within the area of sequential art, but are clearly not cartoons.

No, you seem to be forgetting that the word is referring to something else. It's referring to the contextual situation, NOT the medium in which the situation is provided.

Cartoon is simply a drawing/painting. You can have an Animated Cartoon or a regular (drawn) Cartoon. You can also have a computer generated cartoon. By just saying Cartoon to describe animation you're using slang, by saying "Toon" you're using slang of a slang.

More recently in cinema you also find animation that isn't defined as a cartoon, such as the recent Transformers movies which are heavily CGI thus considered Animation, but without any physical act of drawing, and their entirely photorealistic appearance, wouldn't fall under the category of cartoon.

my screen is jumping around now so it's difficult to respond to the rest of the post - I never said animation was restricted to cartoons. I even referenced Nightmare Before Christmas in my post, dude. Animation is a word used to describe a process or a medium.

[RobboAKAscooby]

Animation is a technique NOT a medium.
Cartoon is a style not a medium.

The medium is the delivery system of which there are very few: film, video, digital file, print (applies to anything from a one page flyer to a thousand page novel best used as a doorstop), CD, DVD, painting, drawing, sculpture, etc
In essence it is the way in which something is presented.
This is the INDUSTRY accepted term, it may not show up in your precious dictionary but considering most can't even spell words like colour correctly and STILL call themselves "English" dictionaries...well...uh...yeah.


Oh and COMIC is an old term for a comedian so I don't understand what all this debate is about surely the 19th century definition should be good enough for everyone.

Now if you'll excuse me I have some "not so light hearted, mildly mature contented, sequential art, to be presented in first digital and later print form" to do now so I bid you all a good day.

[Bustertheclown]

You people are going round and round in circles, without ever actually saying anything. This is the poison that is the semantic argument. Time to stop it now.

my comic would be a t.v. series, in fact I'm working to make it set up a bit more like a TV series, referring to the years as seasons and trying to set up a specific length of storylines and building them in a sort of 3 act fashion.

Get on that then. I'd totally watch a cartoon featuring Lego minifig animation and witty comedy.

[Dr Legostar]

You people are going round and round in circles, without ever actually saying anything. This is the poison that is the semantic argument. Time to stop it now.

my comic would be a t.v. series, in fact I'm working to make it set up a bit more like a TV series, referring to the years as seasons and trying to set up a specific length of storylines and building them in a sort of 3 act fashion.

Get on that then. I'd totally watch a cartoon featuring Lego minifig animation and witty comedy.

it'd be awesome if I could pull it off. I'm still working on my stop motion skills, and example will be available at the 7th anniversary next month, but actually turning the whole thing into a cartoon, it'd be a bit difficult. I'd need voice actors, I'd need to actually... man I really should try to make a whole animated episode.

[NinjaNezumi]

Animation is a technique NOT a medium.
Cartoon is a style not a medium.

Animation is no more a technique than the digital information on a VHS tape. Animation is a medium through which a story is conveyed. Animation can be conveyed through a SECONDARY medium i.e. DVD, VHS, Flip Book. But it's a medium because it conveys the story.

Cartoon is not a style.

A Style is a fashion in which a medium is presented.

A Style would be:
* Impressionism
* Negativism (inverting colors)
* Noir

People get confused on this because you can have Cartooning STYLES, but Cartoon itself is isn't.

Techniques are Applications of creation such as:
* Brush Strokes
* Painting Animation Cells through a printer
* Cutting a Carrot diagonally instead of horizontally

[Komiyan]

Hey here's a thought-
IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL. Just make your damn comics and have fun, gawd.

[Robin Pierce]

guyyyyssss... can we not? this really isn't worth it.

[Dr Neo Lao]

This is the poison that is the semantic argument. Time to stop it now.

Agreed.

*goes off to try and write a novel and fail*