FCBD 2008

Phact0rri · Post by **Phact0rri** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:54 am

I think the one story has potential to be fun, and it very well could get people to check out CG as a whole. However like people have mentioned before it has little to do with the individual comics.

A crossover story would be fun to have a story that continues from year to year or something... but I'm not sure thats what were going for. We need to figure out if the book is made to get people to check out CG or independent comics. Are we trying to sell the site or the comics.

If were selling comics, and showing them our actual comics. I say we should limit the amount of comics there. Give better comics the time to shine. After doing the sampler, we think these FCBD comics should be the same way.

Another option would have a "collaborative" story sandwiched between some short "sampler" things. However I personally think limiting the amount of comics, giving multiple pages to some of the very heavy quality graphic novel style comics would be a great step in the right direction.

War · Post by **War** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:01 pm

You don't want a cross section of CG.

Y'know what'd make a good cross section of CG? Taking all the WOMB comics on any day of the year and shoving them into a printed book. Hey, we've got a sampler with minimal effort all round, and the perfect cross section of CG!

Keffria · Post by **Keffria** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:02 pm

Rickford wrote:For example, if I was told roughly to have a story about an elephant who finds his way into the london underground, I could do that.

But if I was just given a script to illustrate, it would be a no.

Nah, there's no reason to go that far. I don't know who said it earlier (maybe LC?) but I agree that the idea of giving one writer complete creative control over the entire project is troubling. When I talked about themed short stories earlier, I was thinking something more along the lines of giving each artist or artist/writer team or whatever a keyword or phrase and then let them run with it as they see fit.

Please, no crossovers. If you're a good artist/writer, this will shine through whether you're submitting something related to your comic or not. As has been said earlier, this is just going to turn into a "oh look, now we are in this comic, here are the characters, how awesome!" sort of deal -- just another ad, basically.

Coyotzin wrote:What about asking comic bloggers to do the judging? They are used to do some judging already. Eric Burns from Websnark...

Ahahahahahahahaha no.

CaptainClaude · Post by **CaptainClaude** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:15 pm

Screw it, everyone make their own sampler. Report back here in a few months. bring a dish, I'll have trivial pursuits set up, it'll be good for all of us.

Keffria · Post by **Keffria** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:16 pm

I would like to vote against Trivial Pursuit because I suck at it.

Rickford · Post by **Rickford** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:16 pm

I never get any pieces of pie

Coyotzin · Post by **Coyotzin** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:23 pm

Keffria wrote:
Coyotzin wrote:What about asking comic bloggers to do the judging? They are used to do some judging already. Eric Burns from Websnark...
Ahahahahahahahaha no.

Uhm... why?

CaptainClaude · Post by **CaptainClaude** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:34 pm

Keffria wrote:I would like to vote against Trivial Pursuit because I suck at it.

How about pictionary? or would we all argue about the quality of the doodles not being good enough and how to edit together a coherent game which would be praised by the reviewer sitting in the corner?

Man, i hate every thread these days...

Renard · Post by **Renard** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:41 pm

I think you'll have just as much trouble arguing over a qualified disinterested 3rd party as someone connected to CG.

As a non-participant, I have to agree that the themed short-story format with a few artists makes the most sense to me. It sounds far more interesting than an entire series of adverts. A single narrative might be a little too disjointed with constantly changing artists (not to mention the valid complaint about any writer representing CG). In order to defray costs you might consider having between each story an ad page. Either full splash page, half, or quarters. You can gauge the demand and cost them accordingly.

Rickford · Post by **Rickford** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:51 pm

Jenga perhaps?

Keffria · Post by **Keffria** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:57 pm

Rickford wrote:Jenga perhaps?

No way. Some clumsy idiot is going to want to play, and he'll ruin it for everyone. Pictionary, I could get into, because I'm clearly awesome at drawing everything. However, I don't want to stoop to playing with you less-talented chumps.

On Websnark: the laughter was for two reasons. (1) A Big Name in the webcomics world is not going to have the time or inclination to sit back and judge something as insignificant as the CG sampler. I'm all for taking this year's sampler more seriously, but asking bigshots to judge the entries is silly. (2) I don't agree with a number of Mr. Burns' endorsements, and I find most of his commentary/"criticism" bland and inoffensive (and some of it downright "buh?"). Personal opinion etc.

However, I don't want to derail the thread, so... Personally, I'm okay with appointing some kind of panel of judges, but something like a thread with a poll is just going to turn into "who is my bestest buddy?".

ShineDog · Post by **ShineDog** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:16 pm

What would be awesome is if bad artists stopped putting there art on services that affect others. Nothing worse than a nice site with a newsbox showing some fucking garbage the artist drew with his feet.

And god damn those crappy genchans that slipped through.

More quality control! for EVERYTHING

Robin Pierce · Post by **Robin Pierce** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:22 pm

Oh definitely. More quality control. Hell, I think I'll start deleting posts in GD that i feel are crap. I like it. Let's have all the mods do it!

Rick: the idea isn't really to dictate what people write. Just a general theme. Like... 'muffins'. Muffins is a general theme. GO. Okay, so it'd probably be a teensy bit more specific than that, but not much more. As someone with a writer, would you be comfortable with that?

Dutch! · Post by **Dutch!** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:34 pm

Anyone notice how Cortland managed to start this thread and then hasn't been seen since?

Rickford · Post by **Rickford** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:42 pm

pierce studios wrote:As someone with a writer, would you be comfortable with that?

...

Yus.

Robin Pierce · Post by **Robin Pierce** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:44 pm

Dutch! wrote:Anyone notice how Cortland managed to start this thread and then hasn't been seen since?

yes. I took over and will now move on to ruling the world.

Rick - I swear it was a serious question and I wasn't being snarky!

Rkolter · Post by **Rkolter** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:04 pm

Getting artists to agree on FCBD stuff is like trying to herd cats. Stoned cats. Stoned cats being teased with lasers.

KWill · Post by **KWill** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:08 pm

Keffria wrote:I would like to vote against Trivial Pursuit because I suck at it.

I only ever know everyone eles answers when I play that...

CaptainClaude · Post by **CaptainClaude** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:50 pm

FINE, I'll get out my table quoits set. we can play that.

Garneta · Post by **Garneta** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:06 pm

rkolter wrote:Stoned cats being teased with lasers.

Whoa...I'd pay to see that.