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I was going to make an entire April Fools comic, but ran out of time, so it's only an April Fools thumbnail :P (bringing back the villain from the previous chapter) before the cut on the LJ posting of the comic, promising nakedidity and dancing girls:

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I'm also not sure how many people clicked through thinking I maybe had lost my mind and really had done a comic full of naked Etruscan dancing bears. Because it's not entirely unlikely I would do that.

An entire comic that's an April Fools would work very nicely if the readers start out believing it, then doubt creeps in, the comic coaxes them to shrug off their doubt, then there's a satisfying "ha! it was a joke!" payoff. A balance of rising ridiculousness and in-jokes for longtime readers. That would be a great April Fools treat.

Next year I'll start working on it much earlier in the year :roll:

Who else did something for April Fools? What comics have you spotted that have done something?

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Haha, seeing as- like with most "holidays," April fools crept up on me without me noticing. I only remembered after midnight when the Girl-Wonder forums turned a hideous sparkly pink. So then I thought I might switch up the dialogue on this most recent page- which, I'm pretty sure is what Kagerou did today- but now I'm not sure, because adding text is one of the most painful stages of making pages for me. I might just actually update today with a normal page, and see how that messes with everyone's head.
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The girl wonder forum change really messed with my head to. After a few seconds I was like oh right aprial fool's day
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As an April Fool's joke, I was going to redo all the dialogue in all my comics as some long, wierd love story. But I got tired after twenty strips and just went with what I'd finished.
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My favourite April's fools joke: Updating. After a 4 month absence.
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All this talk about Mary Sues.. where would we be if Lee or Kirby didn't project their desires onto their creations, did anyone run the Mary Sue test on Eisner's Spirit? Comic's by and large are wish fullfillment, we relentlessly depict our want's with minute detail, I think the term is still a better term for novel's comic's usually have at least a touch of "preferential treatment" of their material..
I guess in reference to Buster's observation about plot-driven and character-driven comics, you can pass with Mary-sue easier in a story where plot or something other than the character is central. Like, in a story where plot is central, it's better to have a straight man for character, so not to detract from plot. But the problem with wish fulfilment comics is, usually, noone is interested in our personal wishes very much. What we dream of in our heads is usually childish, cliche, egocentric and, in general, sounds better in our heads than it does on paper. I don't think there's anything wrong with having such dreams, but when you decide to let them out in a comic form, you have in mind that it's going to be read by other people.
Though I do think that that test was going a bit too much in details and going about formal stuff without questioning the mothives author might've had and context they used it in, you gotta think about it: many simptoms appear there for a reason: they're often used without particular reason, unnecessary, and as such they seem rahter lame.
Biggest sin ever, in comics, novels and movies, is having a character that can do no wrong. For example, this book I read once when I was sick- called Jude's Law- is the epitome of just that. Jude (an actor/boxer who was perfect in every way) had fallen for May, an overweight but pretty, quiet museum curator. She was all shy and "Oh, how can you possibly like a fat girl like me, you suave, sexy hink" and he was all "You're so beautiful to me" and it made me puke. He bought her clothes (they were perfectly in styule, they fit perfectly, they flattered her perfectly AND he was rich so he could afford it), he helped her deadbeat brother out of a jam with the mob (by using his l33t fighting skills, oh the manliness), he loved her unconditionally and was always faithful. The one fight they had? Because he kept saying she was beautiful and she didn't believe him so he got mad.
Heh heh, doesn't sound so perfect to me. I think that most of girls would eventually leave a guy who insists on telling them how they're beautiful and so on, if nothing than because he'd eventually bore the hell outta them. Actually sounds more like a suck-up than that he really means it.

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mcDuffies wrote:Heh heh, doesn't sound so perfect to me. I think that most of girls would eventually leave a guy who insists on telling them how they're beautiful and so on, if nothing than because he'd eventually bore the hell outta them. Actually sounds more like a suck-up than that he really means it.
That's a strong point. I've seen again and again in real life that the supernatural nice guy routine just doesn't work. You have to have some kind of backbone. For best results, add 1 cup of Asshole and mix thoroughly.
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Black Sparrow wrote:*Author insertion. It just shouldn't be done. Ever.
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I have to disagree with this though, I think it can be done well. E.g. by me :P

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Well it's not so much a matter of how it's done, but how many times it's been done... over and over... and over... Like elves.

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Ugh... if I play in a game with ONE MORE effing elf, I'll slaughter it just on principle.
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mcDuffies wrote:Well it's not so much a matter of how it's done, but how many times it's been done... over and over... and over... Like elves.
You'll have to forgive me, I'm afraid I don't actually read many webcomics...

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Kreepy Kat wrote:
mcDuffies wrote:Well it's not so much a matter of how it's done, but how many times it's been done... over and over... and over... Like elves.
You'll have to forgive me, I'm afraid I don't actually read many webcomics...
Any cliche can be done well, and any overused element can be made new and sparkly. (Really, do we need another boy-meets-girl story? I think not! Because I am a cranky cynic! And I'm not writing one! Really!) It does help to know, going in, where the pitfalls and worn patches are. Not necessarily by reading hundreds of webcomics, but certainly by being well read.

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