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Keeping the Gay out of the USA

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Wooo! Alright kids, break out your sewing kits and pink triangles, American President Bush is urging the Senate to pass a Constitutional ban on gay marriage.

The next logical step is to ban gays and have them removed from the United States Under God of America, probably involving some sorts of camps and maybe ovens and showers.
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oh, hahahahahahahahaha.

wait, he's serious?
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Since they don't have the Commies to kick around anymore and since the towelheads are proving to be a tougher nut to crack than Our Shrub had hoped he and the puppeteers with their hands two feet up his ass have to find another Evil Enemy. The faggots and dykes aren't powerful, don't have lots and lots of money, play to the prejudices of the Right Wingnuts and aren't likely to shoot anyone.

Next up, contraception, non-procreative sex and women's rights.

For more along these lines, look at these three books about the Theocratic Right and this one written by Richard Nixon's campaign guru (!!!!)

The short form: If the sane people don't get their shit together we are utterly fucked, and not in a good way.
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Seriously, can't you impeach (sp?) your political leaders for displays of gross idiocy? -_-
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we could do what people did about five hundred years ago. walk up to the white house with guns and torches and demand that bush get his shit straight or fuck off.
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First of all the Amendment is political bullshit and Mad King George knows it. All he is trying to do is rally the conservative vote as a last ditch effort to keep the House under Republican control. Every Republican in the Senate knows damn well its never going to pass.

Fortunately, Bill Clinton fired back for the Democrats with an AIDS awareness special on CNN. They're still nowhere near finding a cure, its just fighting bullshit with bullshit.

As for homosexuality, it has been established that there are numerous real genetic conditions for causing homosexuality in people. Scientific studies have shown the homosexual brains react differently to the chemical reactions that cause emotional, physical and sexual attraction than they do in heterosexual brains. Also we have established that there are over a dozen gender disorders that can cause physical defects within a person's body and genitalia (look to that self-loathing gender bender Mann Coulter for a clear cut case of Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome). It would be at the very least irresponsible to suggest that these disorders wouldn't affect the parts of the brain that cause sexual attraction as well. I would love to see Mad King George go on the air and tell these people who they can and can not have relationships with.

Chances are, however, once the true nature of the condition is found, a genetic cure may eventually be available - and that will cause a whole new level of social feuds (much like the movie X-Men 3).

Regardless, homosexuality is in fact a genetic condition and as such, it can NOT be legally discriminated against. Homosexual individuals must be given the right to marry.
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It just looks like button pushing to maintain much needed support but delivering nothing. Bush always struck me as a corporatist abusing the support of religious nutters who are suckers for perpetual, moral conflict that goes nowhere.

The neocons do not want to expel homosexuals as they're too convenient as scapegoats. An 'enemy' that aren't easily understood and are seemingly insidious. Perpetual war and fear is a great distraction.

Though I think a de facto US theocracy is forty years away. Run! Get out while you can!
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Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Fuck you, Georgie. State's Rights, biznatches.

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I couldn't believe that was a serious article, i kept reading hoping it was a joke. What is wrong with some people's kids? I want to make up a whole lot of t-shirts that say, "Jesus love Gays and Lesbians" :D cuz it's true, Jesus loves everyone. Except for child molesters of course.
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squidflakes wrote:The next logical step is to ban gays and have them removed from the United States Under God of America, probably involving some sorts of camps and maybe ovens and showers.
Can we start with Cheeny's lesbian daughter? You know, the one who helps him campaign when an election is coming 'round?
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The more Georgie opens his mouth, the more I wish the muslim fanatics were right. That we are a bunch of Godless Infidels. Instead we get stuck with the religious wrong trying to run things.

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warmachine wrote:It just looks like button pushing to maintain much needed support but delivering nothing. Bush always struck me as a corporatist abusing the support of religious nutters who are suckers for perpetual, moral conflict that goes nowhere.
Yeah, it is going nowhere. Their so called "Culture War" is as much a product of Right Wing Think Tanks, Fundie Legal Funds, and CBN playing agitprop with these issues.
The neocons do not want to expel homosexuals as they're too convenient as scapegoats. An 'enemy' that aren't easily understood and are seemingly insidious. Perpetual war and fear is a great distraction.
They have their perpetual enemy in Terrorists. The "Pink Menace" is not helping generate massive Defense Department contracts.
Though I think a de facto US theocracy is forty years away. Run! Get out while you can!
Acctually, in fourty years I hope most of these old fools who are behind this shit will be dead.

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jay042 wrote:
Acctually, in fourty years I hope most of these old fools who are behind this shit will be dead.
there'll be new old fools, I guarantee :roll: :cry:
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LeftTentacleGreen wrote:Regardless, homosexuality is in fact a genetic condition and as such, it can NOT be legally discriminated against. Homosexual individuals must be given the right to marry.
Liberals always present this argument (which I will refer to as the "Homosexuality as a disease" argument), and it always creeps me out because: A) it will never persuade the religious right because they do not agree that sexual orientation is wholly genetic, B) it confirms their belief that homosexuality is a sickness, and C) it does not extend to people who choose their orientation.

As an alternative, I think this is stronger (and not just because of the profanity): "Yes I fuck dudes / chicks. This is America, and that is my fucking right. Choice or not you have no grounds to discriminate against me."

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Frombork! wrote: Liberals always present this argument (which I will refer to as the "Homosexuality as a disease" argument), and it always creeps me out because: A) it will never persuade the religious right because they do not agree that sexual orientation is wholly genetic, B) it confirms their belief that homosexuality is a sickness, and C) it does not extend to people who choose their orientation.
A There are a lot of true things the religious right will never believe. Fuck 'em.

B No, it does not. It proves that homosexuality is just like every other genetically-determined difference, like skin color, height, voice, sex, etc.

C NOBODY chooses their orientation. Anybody who has said they did were either lying to others, or themselves. You can choose who you fuck, you cannot choose who you are attracted to.
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queenhank wrote:
A There are a lot of true things the religious right will never believe. Fuck 'em.

B No, it does not. It proves that homosexuality is just like every other genetically-determined difference, like skin color, height, voice, sex, etc.

C NOBODY chooses their orientation. Anybody who has said they did were either lying to others, or themselves. You can choose who you fuck, you cannot choose who you are attracted to.
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LeftTentacleGreen wrote:
queenhank wrote:
A There are a lot of true things the religious right will never believe. Fuck 'em.

B No, it does not. It proves that homosexuality is just like every other genetically-determined difference, like skin color, height, voice, sex, etc.

C NOBODY chooses their orientation. Anybody who has said they did were either lying to others, or themselves. You can choose who you fuck, you cannot choose who you are attracted to.
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queenhank wrote:
Frombork! wrote: Liberals always present this argument (which I will refer to as the "Homosexuality as a disease" argument), and it always creeps me out because: A) it will never persuade the religious right because they do not agree that sexual orientation is wholly genetic, B) it confirms their belief that homosexuality is a sickness, and C) it does not extend to people who choose their orientation.
A There are a lot of true things the religious right will never believe. Fuck 'em.
B No, it does not. It proves that homosexuality is just like every other genetically-determined difference, like skin color, height, voice, sex, etc.
C NOBODY chooses their orientation. Anybody who has said they did were either lying to others, or themselves. You can choose who you fuck, you cannot choose who you are attracted to.
A) True. Sadly, they are the ones running the show these days.
B) To people who do not think it is a disease (you, me, the sane world), I certainly agree. However, to people who think that homosexuality should be irradicated / cured, this belief is a godsend.
C) And here we just plain ol' fashion do not agree. I think it is naive to say that all homosexuality is a choice; I also think it is naive to say that no homosexuality is a choice.
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Frombork! wrote: C) And here we just plain ol' fashion do not agree. I think it is naive to say that all homosexuality is a choice; I also think it is naive to say that no homosexuality is a choice.
Our choices and interactions are our own to make. Our biological instincts can be influenced by genetic predisposition, but we are more than mere instinct.
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