Hammer's Blush

Peaches · Post by **Peaches** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:20 pm

Nice touch. Is Gimp Girl going to be a new character? I think I'd like to draw her...

Kite-san · Post by **Kite-san** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:51 pm

if Gimp Girl becomes recurring, if she's gagged all the time, would that comedically make her the straight-girl? but if she's the, but Zsa-Zsa... *head hurts*

yays for Gimp Girl!!!

Major Maxillary · Post by **Major Maxillary** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:30 pm

Gimp girl looks totally hot, and i'm not even into that sort of thing.

must be the exposed boobies. they have that effect on people.

Usagi-kun · Post by **Usagi-kun** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:50 am

I need to get ahold of some of those coasters sometime

Squidflakes · Post by **Squidflakes** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:01 am

hummm.. my genitals have been a little dry lately.

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:08 am

If Hammer does look after her, I might hope she gets to take off the mask and ropes and walk upright like a human being ...

Squidflakes · Post by **Squidflakes** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:26 am

Error of Logic wrote:If Hammer does look after her, I might hope she gets to take off the mask and ropes and walk upright like a human being ...

You used to take all of your toys apart when you were a kid, didn't you?

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:51 am

squidflakes wrote:
Error of Logic wrote:If Hammer does look after her, I might hope she gets to take off the mask and ropes and walk upright like a human being ...
You used to take all of your toys apart when you were a kid, didn't you?

I only remember doing that - on purpose - to a toy truck I had. But I put that one back together. I don't recall ever disassembling anything anthropoid.
Anyways, I don't like to see people treated like objects. Not even fictional people ...

RavenxDrake · Post by **RavenxDrake** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:29 pm

I took apart all my toys. And put most of them back together... occasionally with modifications... (did anyone else disassemble GI Joes(the 3.5" figures) and put the pieces back together mixed up to make new guys?).

Speaking of which, if it makes her (Gimpgirl) happy to be used like that, then technically wouldn't freeing her without considering her feelings actually be more like treating her as an object than using her as she wants to be used?

Kite-san · Post by **Kite-san** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:05 pm

Error of Logic wrote:Anyways, I don't like to see people treated like objects. Not even fictional people ...

it's a pity for you, then, that there are people to whom it is very emotionally fulfilling TO be treated as an object. Most people i know who feel that way (myself included) feel so when it's someone one cares for treating one as an object, but i do know a couple of generalists or "public objects" as it were.

Go-Go-Gadget Gimp Girl!

Edit: [edit cancelled. i dont' want to be THAT much of a shit.]

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:14 pm

kite-san wrote:
Error of Logic wrote:Anyways, I don't like to see people treated like objects. Not even fictional people ...
it's a pity for you, then, that there are people to whom it is very emotionally fulfilling TO be treated as an object. Most people i know who feel that way (myself included) feel so when it's someone one cares for treating one as an object, but i do know a couple of generalists or "public objects" as it were.

Go-Go-Gadget Gimp Girl!

Edit: [edit cancelled. i dont' want to be THAT much of a shit.]

I don't think it's that much of a pity for me. There are many ways that people are turned into objects by others in a way that is not emotionally satisfying, but just sadistic and, dare I say it, evil. I'm willing to accept that such may not be the case in some personal arrangements. Are you willing to accept that it may be outside such arrangements?

WhatMeWorry? · Post by **WhatMeWorry?** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:26 am

Error of Logic wrote:
kite-san wrote:
Error of Logic wrote:Anyways, I don't like to see people treated like objects. Not even fictional people ...
it's a pity for you, then, that there are people to whom it is very emotionally fulfilling TO be treated as an object. Most people i know who feel that way (myself included) feel so when it's someone one cares for treating one as an object, but i do know a couple of generalists or "public objects" as it were.

Go-Go-Gadget Gimp Girl!

Edit: [edit cancelled. i dont' want to be THAT much of a shit.]
I don't think it's that much of a pity for me. There are many ways that people are turned into objects by others in a way that is not emotionally satisfying, but just sadistic and, dare I say it, evil. I'm willing to accept that such may not be the case in some personal arrangements. Are you willing to accept that it may be outside such arrangements?

Ok, I'm going to step in now and be serious for a moment.

To assume that Gimp Girl, a fictional character, is outside a personal arrangement when there is no evidence to suggest such an assumption is as presumptious and tells more of your hang-ups in life as much as if you see Bobby and assume that because he is gay he must have been raped by a man as a child.

Now, I personally am not into bondage or any control types of sex. It's just not my thing. However, to make assumptions about people who agree and indulge in such things would make me as narrow minded as the pin heads that assume I'm slutty and amoral because I am polyamorous or because I am bisexual.

Sex between two consenting individuals is as far as I need to know about other people's business, what they do is none of my business. And unless there is evidence to tell me that it is not consensual, I need to mind my own damn business and assume people are innocent before I try and judge them to be guilty.

And I believe that's about as serious as I need to be in any given night, so I shall return to my normal playful self.

Squidflakes · Post by **Squidflakes** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:55 am

WhatMeWorry? wrote:I'm slutty and amoral

You.. you.. you mean you're not?

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:15 pm

WhatMeWorry? wrote:
Error of Logic wrote:
kite-san wrote: it's a pity for you, then, that there are people to whom it is very emotionally fulfilling TO be treated as an object. Most people i know who feel that way (myself included) feel so when it's someone one cares for treating one as an object, but i do know a couple of generalists or "public objects" as it were.

Go-Go-Gadget Gimp Girl!

Edit: [edit cancelled. i dont' want to be THAT much of a shit.]
I don't think it's that much of a pity for me. There are many ways that people are turned into objects by others in a way that is not emotionally satisfying, but just sadistic and, dare I say it, evil. I'm willing to accept that such may not be the case in some personal arrangements. Are you willing to accept that it may be outside such arrangements?
Ok, I'm going to step in now and be serious for a moment.

To assume that Gimp Girl, a fictional character, is outside a personal arrangement when there is no evidence to suggest such an assumption is as presumptious and tells more of your hang-ups in life as much as if you see Bobby and assume that because he is gay he must have been raped by a man as a child.

Now, I personally am not into bondage or any control types of sex. It's just not my thing. However, to make assumptions about people who agree and indulge in such things would make me as narrow minded as the pin heads that assume I'm slutty and amoral because I am polyamorous or because I am bisexual.

Sex between two consenting individuals is as far as I need to know about other people's business, what they do is none of my business. And unless there is evidence to tell me that it is not consensual, I need to mind my own damn business and assume people are innocent before I try and judge them to be guilty.

And I believe that's about as serious as I need to be in any given night, so I shall return to my normal playful self.

Please calm down? I never said I assumed that there was an involuntary thing going on between Zsa and the gimp girl. I only said there are ways people are used that is not consensual. Sure, it may be one of my hang-ups that I dislike the concept of bondage because I'm aware of those non-consensual situations and it's tainted my perception. Go on, think I'm a prude if I don't like to see bondage situations in a public atmosphere - in real life, I hasten to add - but don't put words in my mouth ...

Kite-san · Post by **Kite-san** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:27 am

except that this didn't start as talking about real-life. this started about "i don't like seeing people treated as objects" pertaining to en entirely fictional character, about whom we know nothing except that she lives as Zsa-Zsa's pet, in whatever sort of arrangement. (i say pet rather than posession because she's arranging for someone else ot take care of her while she's gone, rather than hooking up some plumbing)

i apologize for jumping on you in the first place with my earlier post, but your post did read, at least to me, like you were indeed being hung up on it and declaring Zsa-Zsa evil for doing as has been done to Gimp Girl.

and yes, i certainly agree that outside of consent, it's thoroughly evil, been there, done that, have the scar tissue. however, from what we know of Zsa-Zsa, and more importantly, of Unka G, i think the odds of Zsa-Zsa's treatment of Gimp Girl being unconsentual are decidedly low.

Swordsman3003 · Post by **Swordsman3003** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:48 am

...can you just get over it and oogle her tits now?

MNsane · Post by **MNsane** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:53 pm

Ghastly, is Blonde the only hair color available for the GIMP GIRL (yeah, i've got a preference for redheads, so what)

Swordsman3003 · Post by **Swordsman3003** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:44 pm

Error of Logic · Post by **Error of Logic** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:55 pm

kite-san wrote:except that this didn't start as talking about real-life. this started about "i don't like seeing people treated as objects" pertaining to en entirely fictional character, about whom we know nothing except that she lives as Zsa-Zsa's pet, in whatever sort of arrangement. (i say pet rather than posession because she's arranging for someone else ot take care of her while she's gone, rather than hooking up some plumbing)

i apologize for jumping on you in the first place with my earlier post, but your post did read, at least to me, like you were indeed being hung up on it and declaring Zsa-Zsa evil for doing as has been done to Gimp Girl.

and yes, i certainly agree that outside of consent, it's thoroughly evil, been there, done that, have the scar tissue. however, from what we know of Zsa-Zsa, and more importantly, of Unka G, i think the odds of Zsa-Zsa's treatment of Gimp Girl being unconsentual are decidedly low.

Well. Shall we simply agree that there was a misunderstanding and leave it at that?

Kite-san · Post by **Kite-san** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:11 am

fine by me.