"Whiz fizz?" Why does that sound horrible?RantinAn wrote:whiz fizz!
This week I'm a "transhumanist." Seems to be working well so far, we'll see which -ist next week brings.Tha_Pig wrote:Most people looking up for a "community" or "group" for identity is labeling himself with a stereotype.
Iya! Iya! Surf's up, dude!*claps hands* and let me tell you: it is such a HUGE relief when someone uses the right gender!jackalope wrote:Conversation that happened earlier this week:
"So did you see [person's] friend last night?"
"Oh yeah, she's shown up before."
"I'm not sure that was a she.."
"When someone's obviously trying to pass, I try and give them the courtesy of calling them by the gender they prefer."
So i do call MtF people female and vice versa. I wasnt sure on this, I learned something todayLindaH wrote:*claps hands* and let me tell you: it is such a HUGE relief when someone uses the right gender!jackalope wrote:Conversation that happened earlier this week:
"So did you see [person's] friend last night?"
"Oh yeah, she's shown up before."
"I'm not sure that was a she.."
"When someone's obviously trying to pass, I try and give them the courtesy of calling them by the gender they prefer."
and sadly as you say if you devate form the norm in even a group of people that are about deviating from the norm.. you know what i mean.. then you are tossed out.
be it coz you like the fethish leather style, or S/M or whatever. happens here in the pride festival too. the gay leather guys wherent really allowed to walk in it! in the same parade anyone supporting gay/lessie/bi/trans/ect rights could walk. a lot of straight girls (most guys are too afraid to be called gay to dare it) and they wherent kicked out. but if you where a girl and dressed in skintight leather that left your boobs free: very welcome.
jackalope wrote:Too bad many people in the gay and lesbian community can't say the same. When I lived in Santa Cruz and certain womyn started a stink because MtF transgendered weren't "real" women and didn't belong at a "women's meeting." Or the idiot lesbian seperatist who told me that bisexuals were traitors to the sisterhood. And I specifically was for sleeping with men "because I should know better." Or the kicker that's come up at the SF Gay Pride Parade in the past where the leather contigent was asked to "tone down" their presentation because we were bad for PR. Being gay/lesbian/bi/transgendered is okay, but being kinky or perverted, oh my, that's not okay at all! You sickos better go back in the closet, you're ruining things for the rest of us. The White Rats have even gotten that sort of attitude from others in the leather community because we do play piercings (oh no, blood!). Which lead to an in joke with the Rats of "I'm kinky, you're perverted."
No matter how freaky a group is, they'll inevitably manage to find some element among them to ostracize.
Oh that happens all the time, maybe it isn't a constration problem for me but what can I say. Having "worked" on Kim Eeleann Chameleon for 12years or so an still have diddly squat... oh kei 6 final page prototypes but still. Sure I gobbs of stories but have any of them been put down in tangble form, well aside from a few story boards character design and scribbly notes not really. Motivation is a pain. Still the worst is thinking of the entire brillant story section and then poof it's all fuzzy. Ofcourse that what I get for haveing 50 or so things. Atleast I can get new Kawaii Elf strip right... right? damn I haven't done that yet... but atleast there prototyped right... damn it now your making me feel bad.jun wrote:On a more on-topic note I actually came back here to my computer to check a few things while taking a break from... procrastinating at designing characters for a comic or book I've had thoughts of for a very long time. For me personally it's hard to get motivated to do something as constructive as a comic or story, even if it's burning my brain for release. It's frustrating.
Personally I have many ideas that I want to get done in the form of stories, artwork and comics but I can't seem to concentrate. If I had to guess I'd say I have a form of depression. Sometime I may be able to make that comic but I 1) can't draw, 2) can't write, and 3) really only have this burning need to see it through to work with.
So that's the reason I'm not an artist, even though I'm... something... (what I am, exactly, is still undecided... for the most part)
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Mr. Ghastly, if you're looking for transgendered artists, I hope sometime I'm able to at least stand up and say "I have a comic!" but unfortunately... all I have now are active synapses. -_-
I'm sorry if this seems disjointed or doesn't make sense, it's fairly late and my mind is preoccupied with avoiding creativity.
This is the beauty of webcomics. You don't have to be good at anything to create. 99.9% of us are amatures doing this for fun. It's the comic world's equivalent to punk music. Just grab your instrument, make noise and have fun. Don't worry that you can't play more than two or three chords. Don't worry that you can't read music. Don't worry that you have no theory and wouldn't know a minor seventh sustained from a diminished fifth. Just start doing. The more you do the better you'll get. You'll never get anywhere if you don't take the first step.jun wrote: Personally I have many ideas that I want to get done in the form of stories, artwork and comics but I can't seem to concentrate. If I had to guess I'd say I have a form of depression. Sometime I may be able to make that comic but I 1) can't draw, 2) can't write, and 3) really only have this burning need to see it through to work with.
Well, Unicorn Jelly did had two transgendered characters, and the issue is certainly covered at some length, although I can't remember how much of it was actually a part of the comic proper and how much of it was in annotations, forum posts, etc.jun wrote:If I remember right (and Jennifer, please forgive me if I'm wrong) the creator of Unicorn Jelly and Pastel Defender Heliotrope is transgendered. I don't recall seeing anything on either of the comic pages about it...
Actually, my take is that the folks who came out in the late 1970s and early 1980s have been heavily traumatized by the AIDS epidemic. A lot of them have responded to the "gay plague" idea by trying to show how perfectly normal they are. And trying to force the "freaky" people back into the closet. They've forgotten that Stonewall happened because the drag queens got tired of being pushed around. People who came out earlier (and therefore remember the Stonewall Riot or the White Nights Riots here in San Francisco) are more likely to accept the non-whitebread, non-yuppie, non-"normal" members of the community.WhatMeWorry? wrote:
This is the understanding that I have gained thus far in regards to the situation above:
The homo and bi community has a pretty distinct separation of the last two generations. The newest generation tends to be far more accepting and happy-go-lucky and willing to hold hands and kiss in public. This is made possible (or easier depending on your viewpoint) by having the liberty and cultural quasi-acceptance the older generations fought hard for.
Unfortunately, the same members of the older generations that are to be recognized for their efforts also tend to not embrace the new ways and are still insular and as close minded as the "breeders" they are used to battling and such attitudes tend to expand across the board, unfortunately. Hence, the bigotry, even of one's own kind.
Except that worst offenders are those who also haven't done a whole lot of fighting. Nor do they seem to want to do so. They just want to "fit in" and are incensed at those of us who aren't doing so.A very common viewpoint I here from the older generations of the community is to be very pissy and insulted by silly little things such as a transgender wishing to be accepted by their desired gender's group and feel threatened by such things since the newcomer hasn't fought the fights and struggled through the things that they had to.
One can hope. However, humans have a fine talent for dividing the world up into groups of us and them. And much less talent at unifying small groups into larger cohesive groups. Put enough stress on a social system and you'll see scapegoating behavior start up.Ultimately, it is all silliness, of course and fortunately the bigotry within will fade as the bigotry without fades, so there is certainly a light at the end of the tunnel. In the meantime, I hope perhaps this helps some people understand where these people are coming from, even if you, like I, completely disagree with it.
Hah. Yes, the claim that one can "pass" in the straight world. Just as long as no one ever finds out you ever slept with (or even looked upon with longing) someone of the same sex. Then you are forever "queer." Being bisexual doesn't increase your chances of getting a date on a Saturday night, it doubles your chances of getting turned down.Oh, and by the way, speaking as a bisexual, bisexuals are faced with just as much bigotry from the homo community as from the hetero community. I find it amusing that bisexuals are both part of both communities and yet part of neither. Makes for an interesting life I guess...
Iya! Iya! Surf's up, dude!
Multiple facets, perhaps, but I'm not so sure about unique features...rkolter wrote:I used to have a signature that read (something like):
"I find it odd that humans adore gemstones with multiple facets and unique features, yet single out other humans that exhibit the same attributes."
