the sexy thread

[Lulujayne]

Lord almighty... we bathe at least twice a day here.

[WangyJohn]

Usually I shower every morning, though, it depends on wherther I have time.

[Indigo Violent]

I shower at night. It's the only way I can be sure of my hair drying before I have to go to school or work. (I don't own a blow-dryer and don't want one; a bigger waste of electricity I cannot conceive of.)

[Vedius Pollio]

thanks for the /b/lackup

and I agree, ebonics has the be the stupidest pseudo-language I've ever heard
I rate lolcode higher...

But almost all African American culture is pseudo. Look at Kwaanza. (Need I explain that the african slaves that were imported into America came from west africa and almost certainly did not speak Swahili? And yet Kwaanza and its related terminology is all Swahili.

Imagine if a large population of Scottish people were kidnapped by Thai sea pirates, and made to work as slaves. Now imagine the Thai-speaking descendants of those Scots, three hundred years later, participating in civil rights marches and winning certain freedoms. Now imagine one of those Scots deciding to start a festival to celebrate white culture, but giving it a French name or a Russian name and French-Russian terminology, with lots of silly nesting dolls and foie gras.

That's what Kwaanza basically is.)

Same with dot paintings and the Aboriginal flag in Australia. The concept of tricolour flags came from various European nationalist movements, mostly 19th century ones. It is grossly innaccurate to describe primitive langauge groups as "nations", because under nationalist theory, a nation is much more than an ethnic group. (Under French law, for instance, anyone can become French if they are wounded while defending France; and the concept of France as a multi-ethnic nation dates back at least to the Revolution, when Robespierre argued that Jews should be given full citizenship.)

I think that marginalised ethnic groups should stop producing communitarian art (sappy poetry about being proud to be black) and start producing something that endears them to the society they live in.

[Lulujayne]

This thread has gotten decidedly unsexy. Maybe we could move the cross-burning to its own thread?

[WangyJohn]

This thread has gotten decidedly unsexy. Maybe we could move the cross-burning to its own thread?

Ah, great a new topic for me to stay the fuck away from.

[Xero]

This thread has gotten decidedly unsexy. Maybe we could move the cross-burning to its own thread?

sexy times then

oh and VP
PM me your IM info

[Vedius Pollio]

This thread has gotten decidedly unsexy. Maybe we could move the cross-burning to its own thread?

I never advocated lynching them. I just don't like their holiday. As some colonial guy said: When the Zulus produce a Tolstoy, I will read him.

I'm not saying that blacks are unable to produce a Tolstoy. I'm saying that, by being proud of their educational shortcomings, they're making things hard for themselves. Regardless of what a person's culture is they should consider unfamiliarity with Shakespeare to be a thing of shame rather than pride.

A culture that disowns a person for admiring too many foreign cultures is a culture that deserves to be colonised. (This is why I think Australia would be better off if the Japanese succeeded at conquering it.)

[Wipperwill]

MOAR SEXINESS

[RavenxDrake]

I had to...

[Sexy_fork]

wipperwill-third one decidedly unsexy. ribs. ick.

feed her some cake and come back to me in about 10-20 pounds.

[Kittyboymuffin]

Mmm ... blue butt.

*provides more cake, but not any "or death"*

[Xero]

wipperwill-third one decidedly unsexy. ribs. ick.

feed her some cake and come back to me in about 10-20 pounds.

but the cake is a lie fork

and yeah
double ick on the third one

[Chthulhu]

http://www.gaiastore.com/servlet/Detail?no=221

Sorry for the duplicate; the editor was being cranky, and I couldn't find the "Tentaclespotting" thread. :-/

[Bustertheclown]

wipperwill-third one decidedly unsexy. ribs. ick.

feed her some cake and come back to me in about 10-20 pounds.

but the cake is a lie fork

and yeah
double ick on the third one

I think she's pretty cute. Some people are skinny, and this fat boy is okay with that.

[Chthulhu]

wipperwill-third one decidedly unsexy. ribs. ick.

feed her some cake and come back to me in about 10-20 pounds.

I think it's mainly the pose, sucking her belly up as she is, that makes her ribs more prominent; her arms and legs are smoothly padded.

I do agree, though, that she would suit my own tastes better with a bit more flesh on her, but I ain't gonna complain. :-)

[LeftTentacleGreen]

Regardless of what a person's culture is they should consider unfamiliarity with Shakespeare to be a thing of shame rather than pride.

The only reason anyone reads Shakespeare is only to be able to say they've read Shakespeare. Culturally, it has the same merit as being able to say one listens to Tupac.

I agree with Lulu. Take the white trash crossburning elsewhere.

Black Women 01
Black Women 02

[Vedius Pollio]

The only reason anyone reads Shakespeare is only to be able to say they've read Shakespeare. Culturally, it has the same merit as being able to say one listens to Tupac.

But your argument really only holds for philistines. (I'm not sure if you've read Pierre Bourdieu, but you sound like you've read him in college and passively accepted all of his ideas.)

A philistine reads famous authors for the express purpose of showing off, not to study the author's technique, or to evaluate the author's abilities, or (god forbid) to enjoy the author.

Now, Bourdieu views all art as a consumer good, whether it's Chaucer or The Uncanny X-Men. From this perspective, he claims that people consume art according to their social class or cultural capital. Rich, educated people read Shakespeare or travel to London to see him performed. Poor people listen to rap.

The problem with this argument is that it's rooted in Marxist essentialism (the notion that everyone within a certain class automatically behaves in the same way, and is a totally loyal member of that class).

I view the situation differently: all people fall somewhere on a scale between total individualism and total philistinism. A total philistine only cares about fitting in and hanging around country clubs. A total individual is so utterly autistic that they cannot follow any social trends (and therefore escapes from Bourdieu's logic, because a person incapable of understanding society cannot be middle-class or upper-class).

It's difficult to easily summarise what a philistine is, but here are some examples:

* Posh ladies that form book clubs and talk about "powerful novels" (Hemingway, Coetzee, Marquez, etc.) without considering how the author is making use of language.

* Philosophical businessmen: Gordon Gekko and his copy of Sun Tzu, the Multi-Level Marketeer who says that MLM is a "spiritual movement", the quack who claims to have a "unique philosophy" with "a focus on" <enter something warm and fuzzy that the rest of the business world have thus far ignored>.

* Conservative politicians who quote Romantic poetry. (Menzies is one example.)

* Indie rock. Anyone who follows indie is a philistine who is only trying to gain the social upper hand.

* The Comic Store Guy from the Simpsons. (Note that superiority gives him more pleasure than his actual comics.)

Edit: By the way Lefttentacle, you say:

"Culturally, it has the same merit as being able to say one listens to Tupac."

I think you should replace "culturally" with "sociologically". There's more to culture than just sociology and social interraction.

[Bustertheclown]

Black Women 01
Black Women 02

Well, I for one appreciate all sorts of shapes and shades of skin, and those are two fine examples of why I'm hesitant to be picky. Yummers.

[RavenxDrake]

To contribute something other than sexy pictures...

Vedius Pollio: I'm curious who's work your deriving your definition of philistine from, because it deffinitely does not match mine.

To my mind, Philistines are neither the smuggly pedantic champions of a given niche, nor are they the "Haute Posseur" who adopt and discard artistic styles like shoes, picking the ones that match this season's fashions.

A philistine is one who is not only lacking in cultural and artistic depth and aestitics, but is either sanctimoniously indiffernt or openly hostile to such things. The philistine is the indiffernt mother who considers reading a waste of time when you could be out working, the middle-class factory worker who ignores the museum on his day off to go watch a ballgame because looking at painting of naked broads never did anything useful... One who not only does not understand the nature of cultural aspects, but wilfully disdains them, regarding them with bemused confusion or outright contempt. Such is my understanding of the word, at least, unless it's evolved considerably in meaning...

As for Shakespeare... he's a hack. Good writer from a technical standpoint, but an absolute hack. His rhythm and meter are impressive, don't get me wrong, but his works are purely derivative muck who's salicious nature drew throngs of common mud-farmers and eel fishers to the theatres. Much as we'll be juged by the writings of King and Clancy because there so prolific they'll have to survive, so do we judge him so great because we don't have that much to compare him too. His popularity with the common drudge spread his plays over a large swath of the world, even during his lifetime, insulating him against anonymity...