so I got an interview tomorrow...

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so I got an interview tomorrow...

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and I hope to go I get the job
systems administrator

must be there at 10am
and its an hour and a half away from where I live
so that means waking up at a god awful 7am
bleh
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Good luck, then.
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*crosses her fingers for Xero*

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10am-1.5 hours=8:30am

It takes you one and a half hours to get dressed and eat breakfast?

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swordsman3003 wrote:10am-1.5 hours=8:30am

It takes you one and a half hours to get dressed and eat breakfast?
i can pull it of f in about 3 min, but in an idea situation about an hour would be nice, so i can see where he is coming from.

good luck BTW

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swordsman3003 wrote:10am-1.5 hours=8:30am

It takes you one and a half hours to get dressed and eat breakfast?
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swordsman3003 wrote:10am-1.5 hours=8:30am

It takes you one and a half hours to get dressed and eat breakfast?
takes me half an hour to wake up and get out of the door

but I don't like doing that
I'd rather wake up and have some toast and coffee to wake and chill for a bit
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pffft, yea.. 7am wake-up. My heart bleeds for you Xero.

/sys admin, network engineer 11.5 years
//5:45 wake up.
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squidflakes wrote:pffft, yea.. 7am wake-up. My heart bleeds for you Xero.

/sys admin, network engineer 11.5 years
//5:45 wake up.
I can still be awake at 5:45...
I'm a night owl
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yep - still desperately trying to escape that racket. It's nice to be loved, and wanted, and needed, and followed, and electronically monitored, and hounded, and asked to come in on the weekend of your anniversary to babysit a database install. Wait. On second thought, it's not so nice.

Anyway - try to get a feel for what angle they need.

Service - (someone to reset account passwords, fix permissions, change printer cartridges, clear jams, etc.)
Technical - tweak shit to make it work, write that perl script to reset the exchange server at 2:30 am, and swap out the backup files, build automated installer packages, etc. fine-tune ActiveDirectory replication scheme across 20 different sites on 3 different continents including domain policies, remote installs, ipsec, and roaming profiles.
Doc-drone - Write up instructions and whitepapers on how to install stuff, what not to do, what to do, and who to steer clear of, and why your boss is so damn awesome.
Vendor whore - call up vendors and get all the specs, and figure out which ones are lying about their volume discounts and delivery dates, must be very good at memorizing obscure model numbers that change for no apparent reason other than to justify charging for driver bugfixes.

In my opinion, Technical is the most fun, but Doc-Drone is perhaps the best opportunity for advancement. (then again, in service, if you bust your ass, and kiss everyone else's make a name for yourself, you can get in good with the higher-ups; but it's easier to transition from Doc-Drone to some kind of sales/marketing position, or so it seems.

Vendor whore is a secure career, but a dead-end.

So is Technical - and it's like Phone Support. I was told this in 1992, and it is WAY more true now than it was then: You either learn-out, or you burn-out. Because if you are in a technical network admin role, and you're good enough to transition out to a real "developer" position, sometimes you'll become such a hot commodity that you'll be on the critical path for many projects. You die, the project dies. Instant job security. Instant-say-goodbye-to-a-life.

I don't know if it's really possible to make a clean transition from the technical network admin role, without getting burned out, unless you do a stealth switch; and then, you can't put "large development-type tasks" on your resume. Well, I did, but I sort of took advantage of a program budget cut to get cut loose, just when I was making myself indispensable, and I changed employers. Had I not done that, I think I'd still be in that pigeonhole at <Large_Baby_Killing_Defense_Contractor>. Hell, I was close to burn out then. It's been 6 months and I still don't think I've recovered from that hell. But spiffy-sounding projects on resumes make for spiffy new positions at nicer companies.

If there's one piece of advice I have to impart - that is it. Be enthusiastic, be confident about the things you do know, and don't pretend to know things you don't know (unless you can tell for certain that the interviewer is a schmuck!). You get the job, and then you try to enthusiastically push for the most impressive awesome projects you can, be a leader in pushing to get them in, (but don't piss people off by shaking the tree too much - some people don't like their gilded cages rattled; you've got to carefully set them up to graphically demonstrate their own brilliant incompetence, so you can replace them) - then, if you don't like the place, worst-case scenario, you've got a lot of impressive stuff to put on your resume to find another, better job. If you DO like the place, you've made it cooler, because IT is all about cool stuff. Cool people want to work on cool technologies. No - seriously, your company will attract better talent, when they think they can pad their resume. Then it's just a challenge to keep them. But you're a hell of a lot better off working around competent, talented, (and helpful) people, than you are incompetent, stubborn, and arrogant people.

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Good luck!
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fnyunj wrote:... You get the job, and then you try to enthusiastically push for the most impressive awesome projects you can, be a leader in pushing to get them in, (but don't piss people off by shaking the tree too much - some people don't like their gilded cages rattled; you've got to carefully set them up to graphically demonstrate their own brilliant incompetence, so you can replace them) - then, if you don't like the place, worst-case scenario, you've got a lot of impressive stuff to put on your resume to find another, better job...
That's... fairly specific. <grin>
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