A moment of humility.

Mofo · Post by **Mofo** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 12:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Munk:
Under the K section, I found "Superosity," which is published by Keenspot Entertainment, and written and drawn by Chris Crosby.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Chris Crosby is a right decent guy. If it weren't for him, Warp 9 wouldn't even exist, as he owns both Keenspot and Keenspace. He also publishes his own webcomic, Superosity, which I guess, is now being reprinted in comic book format, as you saw. He pays the bills.------------------
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Normalguy · Post by **Normalguy** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 12:59 am

gonna have to agree with Mofo... if it wasn't for Crosby you wouldn't see nearly as many comics out there as you do...just to name a few...Warp 9 to Hell
RealLife
SinFest
the list goes on and on... I know I wouldn't have a comic it wasn't for it... so um yeah, you can suck it.------------------
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Chris Copeland · Post by **Chris Copeland** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 1:25 am

Dont be such ass kissers Jesus. I have a web comic...or I will soon....I am setting up my website/comic DarkUnicorn to handle over 10,000 daily readers. I for one do not want to rely on someone else to bring my comic to the public. I have it also on keenspace but if keen went down I could make it on my own. The secret is finding a cheap enough web host with enough bandwidth. I happen to find someone for less then 30.00 a month with plenty of bandwidth and space to host my comic...no banners and I can have any content I like. Keenspot and Keenspace are good because it has a lot of visitors and can help to make your comic more popular. However I wish they had some kind of quality control..or atleast demand that you update your comic ever 1 time/ week.. if you cant do 1 strip a week then you dont need to be doing a comic.

Mofo · Post by **Mofo** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 3:07 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Chris Copeland:
Dont be such ass kissers Jesus.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Who's kissing whose ass? I'm grateful to have free hosting for whatever kind of strip I want to put up. Crosby's company allows that for hundreds of folks across the world and for that, I think he's a decent guy. Period. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The secret is finding a cheap enough web host with enough bandwidth. I happen to find someone for less then 30.00 a month with plenty of bandwidth and space to host my comic...no banners and I can have any content I like.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, if you wanna pay 30 bucks a month to host our strip, we'll gladly thank you for it and be calling you the decent guy in the case, but as it stands, I can't afford that on top of everything else. So Crosby hosts us. We've got a banner on each page, yeah, but it could be far worse. And we, also, can have whatever content we'd like to put up. If you're not convinced, I direct you to the following:
<A HREF="http://kunisure.keenspace.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://kunisure.keenspace.com/</A> <A HREF="http://smut.keenspace.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://smut.keenspace.com/</A> <A HREF="http://fivecomix.keenspace.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://fivecomix.keenspace.com/</A> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>However I wish they had some kind of quality control..or atleast demand that you update your comic ever 1 time/ week.. if you cant do 1 strip a week then you dont need to be doing a comic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think one of the most admirable things about Keenspace is the simple fact that anyone is allowed to participate. Everyone thinks their own comic's the shit and that somebody's bound to want to see it. And on the other end of the spectrum, not every comic is for everyone. There are bound to be people who hate it for one reason or another. It's all about taste, and who's to dictate that? You can't please all of the people all of the time, but Keenspace offers the chance for anyone to find an audience without discrimination. It's a damn fine idea, in my book.------------------
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Normalguy · Post by **Normalguy** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 3:34 am

Well gee, I wish I could afford to pay $30 a month but 1) I'm not a teenager who's parents buy them everything they want 2) I'm not a spoiled guy who's older than a teenager whose parents buy them everything they want and 3) I have better things to spend my money on and why pay for something when I can get it for free?So before you go critizing others maybe you should evacuate that stick that's up your ass first.------------------
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Chris Copeland · Post by **Chris Copeland** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 3:42 am

Penny arcade :...damn thats funnyMega Tokyo: as a man I should be shot. I mean I hate that bubble manga shit . I think I am just facinated at the fallowing it has . How could such a lame ass story have so many readers ( over 15,000/day !! ) A huge forum community also..its wierd .)PVP: it has its moments but scott kurtz is going to get 5 across the eyes if I ever see him. Angst Technolgy: also it has its moments Bean : Its a fantasy comic...rather interesting and amazing art to boot <A HREF="http://www.outcaststudios.com" TARGET=_blank>www.outcaststudios.com</A> Then from time to time I check out all the keenspot stuff to see if anything ever gets funny..or good story ( never btw )... how W92H is not a keenspot comic is beyond me .
ha ha maybe a good thing . Creators seem to get to good for there community when they hit the ( bigger ) time

Usagi · Post by **Usagi** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 3:45 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Chris Copeland:
Dont be such ass kissers Jesus. I have a web comic...or I will soon....I am setting up my website/comic DarkUnicorn to handle over 10,000 daily readers. I for one do not want to rely on someone else to bring my comic to the public. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There's a difference between being a kiss-ass and being appreciative. I don't know Chris Crosby or anything, but I'm thankful that he's letting us do this for free. I've tried out his comic.. Not my cup of tea, but I'm not gonna be an ingrate and call him useless.You also say that you don't want to rely on anyone to bring your comic to the public. Well, I gotta tell you, man.. Unless you're running the server, the routers, and whatever other kinda technobabble you choose from your house with at LEAST T1 to handle all the traffic, you're gonna be relying on someone else. Don't get me wrong. If you have a dream, then chase it til your legs fall off. But, it's unrealistic to expect to be completely self-sufficient in this field.The bottom line is this: Chris Crosby makes it possible for us to bring our webcomic to the public for FREE. He can slap around nuns in his free time for all I care. I'm still appreciative for what he's done for the webcomic community.In other news, Non Sequitur and Sherman's Lagoon are both quality strips. Not that I've read a newspaper in the last three years.. But, still!------------------
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Normalguy · Post by **Normalguy** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 4:19 am

Usagi: You can read most newspaper(print) comics online now.... in fact I'm trying to get an internship with Universal Press (they do Non Sequitur, Garfield, Fox Trot, Peanuts, etc) for the web page stuff, they're based down in Kansas City which is pretty close to where I live.But anyway, almost every syndication company now has a web site where you can view the comics.------------------
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Mofo · Post by **Mofo** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 5:06 am

Just a reminder, let's keep this civilized. Debating a point is one thing, but let's not be insulting.------------------
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Mandingo · Post by **Mandingo** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 5:11 am

I dont like Superosity much at all as a comic, but I apperciate what the guy does.But then again, my tastes for a webcomic, is pretty fine.And yes, Boondocks are awesome. Fox Trot is still enjoyable....I'm really tired of Dennis the Menace and Family Circus though. I mean, shit, those kids should be old enough to be in college! I really thought there was no way that they could keep doing different versions of the SAME JOKE for the past thirty or forty years or whatever. There's a paper comic called Zits which is kinda enjoyable too. That's all!------------------
-BOB- Anti-Quebecian to the end.

Chris Copeland · Post by **Chris Copeland** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 5:14 am

Ehh dont be so serious brother.. you read me wrong ..or should I say I came across wrong. It is very cool what the guy is doing for keenspot and keenspace . Are you saying there would be no W92H without keenspace though ???Ehh I was just saying that I can host my own stuff I dont need keenspace to bring my work to the public. However I am not downing what they do I use the service..why would I??About quality control..well maybe I meant quantity control...they have over 1000 keenspace comics and maybe there are 100 or less that update on any kind of a regular basis. I guess for un proffesional artist it is a training ground for dicipline. It's a;; discusion so dont get so bent

[This message has been edited by Chris Copeland (edited 07-08-2001).]

Usagi · Post by **Usagi** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 5:35 am

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Mofo · Post by **Mofo** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 6:05 am

I don't find Boondocks funny at all, normally. It's just an awkward strip; hard to read. Too many words or they're too little or something, I dunno.I like the art of Zits but the writing's bland. I like Baby Blues and Jump Start, too. And, yeah, Fox Trot's been a favorite for a while.------------------
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PurpleButtNoid · Post by **PurpleButtNoid** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 6:42 am

Jim Borgman is awesome (does the art for Zits). I've got a bunch of his editorial cartoon books. They're really good, so if you ever get the chance, pick one up.I don't understand how some of the crap in my local paper even gets syndicated though. Has anyone ever seen "The Dinette Set"? I can't tell which is more horrible, the writing or the "art". Boondocks, James, Baby Blues, and Mutts are pretty good though. Everything else is just ancient.

Mandingo · Post by **Mandingo** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 10:35 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mofo:
I don't find Boondocks funny at all, normally. It's just an awkward strip; hard to read. Too many words or they're too little or something, I dunno.I like the art of Zits but the writing's bland. I like Baby Blues and Jump Start, too. And, yeah, Fox Trot's been a favorite for a while.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I like Boondocks a lot. I've even got a softcover collection. There are some GREAT storylines in there...And yeah, I can see that in Zits. The best storylines there are the ones where they contrast the son versus the dad or mom. But it's good overall I think.Baby Blues isn't bad at all. Not a huge fan of Jumpstart.I'm extremely tired of Snuffy Smith too. I can't believe that's still in the papers. Rose is Rose is way too fucking sappy for my tastes. I haven't laughed at Garfield in a long time, but I still like the old school memories I have of it. One of my favorite strips was just so simple. The first panel is just Garfield sleeping on the table. The second is Jon standing above Garfield, all dirty and shitty looking, with crud all over him, and very angry. The final panel is him yelling at Garfield while turning around. He's saying: "I'm guessing you put THIS on my back?!?!" (paraphrased), and on his back is a taped sign that says "BURY ME ALIVE." I thought that was appropos considering the recent Warp9 storylines. Heh.Blondie's gotten pretty old too. Heh. ------------------
-BOB- Anti-Quebecian to the end.[This message has been edited by mandingo (edited 07-08-2001).]

Munk · Post by **Munk** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 11:04 am

I saw something neat in the latest issue of Previews last night. (For those out of the know, Previews is a magazine/catalogue devoted to comic books -- lists every comic being distributed by the US's largest comics distributor.)Under the K section, I found "Superosity," which is published by Keenspot Entertainment, and written and drawn by Chris Crosby. First... does the name Chris Crosby ring a bell with anyone else? If not, it should. And not in a good way. Second... the book looks like complete shit. The cover art is horrible. This looks like junk I was drawing in jr. high. Third... lemme transcribe the description."When Chris's pal Barton is fired from his clerk job at Circle Z, what's the only logical solution to his money troubles? Travel back in time to January 1994 and steal cash from OJ Simpson while he's still rolling in Naked Gun 33 1/3 money! Plus, Chris spends a grueling day at Cool-Ass Internet, under the watchful eye of scary new Vice President Valarie, while little brother Bobby enters punk turtle friend Snap into his school's snazzy "Show & Tell 2000" tournament (hosted by Corey Feldman!). Forty-two strips (all with commentary) and all-new material by Crosby and special guest cartoonists will show you why all the cool kids on the internet are achieving Superiosity daily!"That last line especially cracked me up, as I've never even heard of it before. Maybe some of you better-educated kids have. Dunno.Sounds like a buncha shit to me. Then again, I'm biased.

TheGreatElBobo · Post by **TheGreatElBobo** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:15 am

Outland had its moments.
Anyone ever read Zippy the Clown?

The Mexican Wifebeater · Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:01 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Munk:

My anti-Crosby reference was more of an inside joke than anything. Didn't he used to hang out in Wiz? And wasn't he one of the assholes?B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Wasn't that us? And as for decent newspaper comics, one of our local papers has a bunch of readworthy strips. They took a vote once to get rid of the crappiest cartoons, and though Bound and Gagged and Cathy finished with next to no votes, they kept them because they felt they had a niche audience. Crap on that. I like foxtrot, sherman's lagoon, heart of the city, crankshaft and drabble can be alright at times. Overboard's got some good strips, so do one big happy, bizarro, speedbump, and loose parts. I like what i've read of boondocks, but this paper doesn't carry it. And you know why? Because they keep crap like cathy and bound and gagged. 3 pages of comics and no room for boondocks. booooo.

Munk · Post by **Munk** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:14 am

Blondie's been old for 40 years.Garfield's nearing that.My anti-Crosby reference was more of an inside joke than anything. Didn't he used to hang out in Wiz? And wasn't he one of the assholes?Talking about people behind their backs rocks out.

Violentmae · Post by **Violentmae** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 9:56 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by PurpleButtNoid:
Has anyone ever seen "The Dinette Set"? I can't tell which is more horrible, the writing or the "art". Boondocks, James, Baby Blues, and Mutts are pretty good though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
NO haven't seen that, but I LOVE Mutts. And there is another one with a guy and his dog and cat in it, very silly, or maybe I just find it funny cause I got pets. Zippy the clown is funny, can't remember where I read it though, I think it is in our local Indepedent paper, LA Weekly. Can't remember.And I don't remember Chris whatever in Wiz, but that may have been after my stint on AOL.