My Theory of Space and Time

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See what you guys think about this:

Time is only an illusion created by movement through space.

I thought this up a couple of days ago. What I mean is that our perception of "time" is only the same because our movement through space is the same. If the rate at which you move through space changes, the way you view "time" changes accordingly.

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History is an illusion caused by the passage of time
Time is an illusion caused by the making of history - Lunchtime doubly so

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Time is relative. One day on Earth is not equal to one day on Mars. Hmm... we measure time using Sun. How is day long on Sun? Time depends on location in space.
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Time is just a direction, the fourth (really the first) dimension. It's just as relative as left and right, the faster you move in any direction the more time slows down.

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Time is a real intresting subject to touch on. I beleave Einstein did a lot of work on the study of time and relativity.
I mean..like lets say I was travling at the speed of light. Somone outside watching me inside the spaceship would see I was moving VERY VERY slow. While inside time would go how we say 'normal'. If I travled to the nearist star and back (8 light years) 8 years would not have passed. It would have been MUCH longer. Odd really.
Ok I like stuff about space and time etc..etc..
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No, Michael, you're thinking of solar cycles. A "second" on Earth is roughly equal to a "second" on Mars. I'm talking about your speed realative to the rest of the universe.

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DeByrus, your thoughts on Time are actually the foundation of the thinking of most of our great scientist/philosophers, Hawking, Sagan, etc.

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I had to give a presentation, but I talked to our resident physics prof while I was over there. He told me some interesting stuff, most of which is kinda (no, impossible) to explain over the i-net.
But as for my theory: he said that it was basically just another perspective of what Einstien said in his theories of relativity.
Oh, and El SillY: Dr. Deci (our expert, pronounced Dee-Cee) said the fourth dimension is not time, but a way of traveling through space faster than through the third dimension. I don't expect you to understand, but grab my ICQ and maybe we can discuss it further.

That goes for anyone else, too.

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Sounds interesting, I think I will grab your ICQ
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Actually, if there were a fourth spatial dimension that is not 'curled up' as the extra spatial dimensions hypothesized in string theory are, it would not directly help you move in three dimensional space at all, just like moving left or right would not directly help you move forwards or backwards. It would help you do things like walk through walls, though! :wink:

As for time being an illusion, many philosophers and physicists agree, but exactly what causes the illusion of time is still up for debate.
I think one key is understanding the difference between time (what we perceive as time) and t (time represented in equations describing physical interactions and phenomenon). It is clear that t represents something, but it is not clear that it represents time as we understand it.

Anyways, i have a theory that movement through time (the passage of time, and the anisotropy of time) is an illusion generated by the chemical nature of our bodies. Fundamental particle interactions are identical as t increases or decreases, as are interactions in classical Newtonian physics, but the chemical interactions which enable us to function as decision making machines and creatures of perception only take place as t increases (some say 'as entropy increases'), and they take place over relatively uniform periods of t. Therefore, because we only function as creatures of perception as t increases at a uniform rate, it is no surprise that we perceive time as 'moving' at a certain rate (one second per second :wink: ) and in a certain direction (towards the future).

Many people use entropy in their definition of time, but i am uncomfortable with this, because i do not understand exactly what entropy is, or why it increases as t increases.

Sorry about my rambling, but i have some pretty strong feelings about time! :grin:

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The most basic misconception peple have about the concept of time as a seperate dimension is that they call it the fourth. That's wrong. It's the first. The other three we see all the time wouldn't work without it.

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Surtur -- entropy, by definition, is:
a measure of disorder that exists in a system.
Reading your post, I thought of The Matrix, and what they said about our physical world being nothing more than chemical and electrical signals interpreted by our brain. So technically, our world may not exist as such, but this is merely the way we percieve it.
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I wrote something (badly written and I slide of the point) about how our world maybe does not exist since we can't prove anything, sooner or later all "facts" rest upon an assumption.
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I'll tell you something -- and this is true -- which drives me nutsif I ponder it for too long. Get this:
The only wavelenghts that we can see are those in the visible light spectrum. (Duh!) But every single molecule vibrates at a specific frequency when hit by light. The frequency that it vibrates at will determine what wavelenghts the molecule will absorb and which it will reflect. For example, when Chlorophyll (the green stuff in plants) gets hits by sunlight, the molecules absorb the red and blue light is absorbed and the green is reflected back.
So, in essence, nothing (except light) has color, because what we view as color is simply a vibration of different molecules and atoms.

Wierd, huh?

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Take it up a notch, how about this:
Color does not exist. We are, in fact, processing the sensations of photons striking our fovea centralis at certain frequencies, much in the same way that you process a touch on the shoulder. Just through different circuits.
Everything you think you see is really just sensory input to a special nerve.

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yea, that's basically what I said earlier about your brain interpreting the world by use of chemical and electrical signals and processes.

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stupid double post. don't know how I do that so often

-- sorry

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Keenspace's forum setup. Sometimes it takes so long for it to go thru, it, or you inadvertantly from hitting stop and resend, reads the post send twice.
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Geesh I really get a heache of all this heavy thinking post!

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There is an option to delete your post, you know...

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