Regarding 10/31 strip... I swear I'm not a pig

Postby Jay aka Mac on Wed Oct 31, 2001 2:56 am

I don't normally have jokes with hookers.
Promise. <P>Now, this is the first charicature of a female that's ever been shown in anything I've presented to the public. Naturally, it had to be one of such proportions... That makes me look bad. <P>I swear, I'm not a pig. <P>It's hard--you try to draw a woman of normal proportions at this size, and it looks too small, so you tweak the picture to make it look right. Then when you draw a female that is more... gifted... in the chest area than the first one, she obviously wouldn't stand up straight without a steel rod welded to her back. <P>There HAS to be a happy medium. I'm trying to figure out where it is. <P>Experimenting with this is hard. I've spent my entire life trying to suppress my Y chromosome. It's just the way I work. I figure that at least the world has one man not ruled by his hormones, right? ...but that means I feel embarrassed even drawing all this in private. <P>On top of that, it would seem that most of the women that associate with me (not that I associate with, but that associate reciprocally), and therefor will appear in the comic, happen to be quite buxom. This makes me look like a pig of a cartoonist, but I promise that I'm not. <P>I'm actually quite happy with women of average proportion. I even find them quite attractive. I've got some in my strip. But drawing that wide range gets to be very hard, since I run into the aforementioned wall. <P>Would anyone care to tell me what they think? Chels (who posts here as "Ami-Mizuno) had one thing to say after seeing the strip:
"I know you try so hard to be a gentleman, but even you have to admit, that hooker has bodacious tatas" <--- HER WORDS, NOT MINE (I use only the word "breasts", thankyouverymuch)<P>Now it *was* supposed to be a hooker, and I was trying to make that obvious, but I can see what she's saying. Then I look again and I think she's nuts. Then I look AGAIN and I see what she's saying. <P>But on this strip and in the future, would anyone care to lend their comments? <P>What do you guys (and ladies!) think? <P>Mac aka Jay
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Postby Vinnie on Wed Oct 31, 2001 7:39 am

well you still need to work on the female anatomy. the boobs are the hardest. (if women call them boobs all the damn time then why shouldnt I? It's a fun word to say.<P>anyway the trick to boob drawing as far as correctly interpreting the size is the amount of the circle drawn. you can get two completely different results based on the same diameter sphere by drawing and omitting different parts of it. it's just the way lines play with the eyes.
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Postby Jay aka Mac on Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:41 am

Women are hard to draw. <P>Actually, the prostitute in 10/31's strip came out just like I'd planned, but I can see how it looks as though there are errors, considering the optical illusion of a third of the body being off-panel. <P>Not that I have success I desire in my regular tries. <P>It's weird--I'm a rabid perfectionist about drawing certain things. Breasts are one (two?) of those things.
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Postby Crystal on Fri Nov 02, 2001 1:25 am

Just a thought from a woman/feminist/fan about the happy medium: when you need to draw a woman with an abnormally large mammary area, draw the steel rod on her back for support. She'll appreciate it, I promise.
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Postby Jay aka Mac on Fri Nov 02, 2001 7:47 am

Crystal, thanks for the advice, but the simple fact of the matter is that I'm not fond of getting shot <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>In the past, I have unintentionally offended women in my attempts to be polite, frank, and/or honest. Those attempts quickly blew up in my face.
I KNOW I'd get my butt kicked to Hong Kong for that one :><P>Hey, I'm not a pig, promise! Just as long as there's a line drawn between feminist (my mother raised me to be a good male feminist :> ...not a feminine male, mind you) and, as Rush Limbaugh says, "feminazi". <P>Geez, I usually remain absolutely stoic on such matters, but if I have to "get involved", I become a blubbering doofus. <P>Did you see yesterday's New York Times headline? "Mac draws breasts. World in shock." ...I'm just trying to get this right so I won't offend anybody. Heck, I'm half scared that doing it right will offend someone. <P>Women are still cool, though. (All of 'em, not just the ones that look like supermodels/hookers/whatnot). <p>[This message has been edited by Jay aka Mac (edited 11-02-2001).]
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Postby Jay aka Mac on Fri Nov 02, 2001 10:24 am

BTW, I would like to note this: <P>So far, out of people that we didn't know before we started, we currently have one (1) stated fan. <P>The fact that this fan is intelligent, female, and, presumably, from earth, means that our demographic is a bit wider than we thought. <P>Thanks <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
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Postby Ami-chan on Fri Nov 02, 2001 11:13 am

Well, contrary to the popular belief of Jay, I post here once in a blue moon as Ami-chan, not Ami_Mizuno. He's getting me mixed up with another board, I think. Anyway, yes those were my words exactly. I had all kidns of fun laughin' at Mac, but it's okay because he's in the MAN category as in Vinnie simply because he's MINE! All mine!! Yes, he's my Fragglewoofums! Anyway, I have a formal to get ready for so, byes!
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Postby Crystal on Mon Nov 05, 2001 6:20 am

Good point about the getting shot. But that's the best I could come up with. And you thought I was intelligent. And your presumption was correct; I am indeed from Earth. Not necessarily the most desirable regions (I live in Utah for college, my family's in Georgia and I grew up in Detroit), but definitely Earth. I do believe that's all. Okay bye now.
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