Hello, everyone, long-time lurker, first time poster -- a train of thought ran over me last night that I felt compelled to share.
So there are alternate universes out there, with alternate versions of everyone (Rumi, Rick, etc). This made me wonder, are there alternate versions of the General in the future of these other universes? Which led me to think...
What if the General is travelling back in time, into all the various alternate universes, to prevent those universes from producing their versions of HER!
If the General can move through time and between universes, wouldn't her biggest threat be someone else who could do the same? And the most likely candidate would be the General herself.
As for "what looks like evil may not be"... perhaps the General has already encountered a particularily vicious and evil version of herself from another another universe, which led her to start preventing her own evolution in other universes.
What all this means for our heroes... well, I haven't got there yet. But that's my theory. Whatdya think?
LD
The General's Motives
Welcome. I personally prefer to leave pennies on the tracks rather than get run over myself, but this does sound interesting...On 2002-03-27 17:45, Lowland Drifter wrote:
Hello, everyone, long-time lurker, first time poster -- a train of thought ran over me last night that I felt compelled to share.
I guess I can't really speak for everyone else, but my impression is that we'd all been assuming the General was trying to ensure her own creation, not prevent rivals... I know I was. Now that you point it out, though, this theory really goes better with her actions thus far.So there are alternate universes out there, with alternate versions of everyone (Rumi, Rick, etc). This made me wonder, are there alternate versions of the General in the future of these other universes? Which led me to think...
What if the General is travelling back in time, into all the various alternate universes, to prevent those universes from producing their versions of HER!
We mostly seem to be assuming the General is the product of some traumatic event that occurred to one of the Fen... So perhaps she really is here trying to save them, in a way. For her own potentially evil reasons, of course.
I wonder, this might even go a way toward explaining why she cares about Kath's opinion of her...
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I like chess, but I'd rather play pinball.
I like chess, but I'd rather play pinball.
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Hmmm.....good thought, but what if it's both?
By keeping herself from being created in the other dimensions, she ensures that she can come in and take over and set up her multi dimensional empire of the future without opposition.
I believe that the professor (Dr. Why I think) could be linked to this universe's future General and that is why he has come here.
By keeping herself from being created in the other dimensions, she ensures that she can come in and take over and set up her multi dimensional empire of the future without opposition.
I believe that the professor (Dr. Why I think) could be linked to this universe's future General and that is why he has come here.
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Linking our previous The General's Goals discussion:
http://phpbb.keenspace.com/viewtopic.ph ... orum=162&8
At this time, her plans and alignment are still pretty fuzzy. There's not much to go on, though a connection with The Professor, Dr. Why, may not be amiss. That she's trying to obtain some specific result out our timestream by meddling in it also seems certain, not merely "conquer this miserable planet". The latter wouldn't involve the strategy she's employing.
P.S. Welcome to boardiness, LD.
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http://phpbb.keenspace.com/viewtopic.ph ... orum=162&8
At this time, her plans and alignment are still pretty fuzzy. There's not much to go on, though a connection with The Professor, Dr. Why, may not be amiss. That she's trying to obtain some specific result out our timestream by meddling in it also seems certain, not merely "conquer this miserable planet". The latter wouldn't involve the strategy she's employing.
P.S. Welcome to boardiness, LD.
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Consider this:
in the alternate reality, the General ensures the assassination of the President. Ensuring the destruction of fandom as reactionary and dangrous terrorists. In the world we know and love, she saves the club and sets them on a course to being the dominant force in their world. Then she introduces the two to each other.
This could have two results -- by removing fandom in its entirety, she could be ensuring that our fans would win, thus ensuring the vision for the kind of technological advancement she seems to need would come to past, while simultaneously destroying a reality possibly ruthless enough to take her out.
Or the two realites could mutually destroy each other, which would could mean whatever reality she's from ends up on top of the multiversal heap. This is, of course, assuming that she is, in fact, not from a future version of our fans reality.
--Matt
in the alternate reality, the General ensures the assassination of the President. Ensuring the destruction of fandom as reactionary and dangrous terrorists. In the world we know and love, she saves the club and sets them on a course to being the dominant force in their world. Then she introduces the two to each other.
This could have two results -- by removing fandom in its entirety, she could be ensuring that our fans would win, thus ensuring the vision for the kind of technological advancement she seems to need would come to past, while simultaneously destroying a reality possibly ruthless enough to take her out.
Or the two realites could mutually destroy each other, which would could mean whatever reality she's from ends up on top of the multiversal heap. This is, of course, assuming that she is, in fact, not from a future version of our fans reality.
--Matt
I know this is off topic, but did anyone else cheat like hell when they were reading those books? I always marked my last few steps in case I died or something.On 2002-03-29 07:49, Nullset wrote:
I just realised what her problem is. She never got any "Choose Your Own Adventure" books as a kid! Having never had the chance to analyse alternate timelines in an constructive and educational manner, she's bound and determined to find out now.![]()
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Of course. After a couple of them, you'd figure "Why should I go back to the beginning when I die when I can just go back to my last choice and not have to read all the same stuff over again?" Ah, those things were fun back then. And when you think about it, its kinda like being able to play a really simplified version of some text adventure game without needing a computer. Of course, they seem kinda silly NOW, but still...I know this is off topic, but did anyone else cheat like hell when they were reading those books? I always marked my last few steps in case I died or something.
Ah, nostalgia... Wait a minute, I hated childhood! Why am I being nostalgic about it?
ANYWAY, on to more relevant things:
I have a theory for people to ponder. The General is changing realities to ensure that they are the same as hers (or so it seems). Lowland Drifter suggested that, since the greatest threat to the General would be herself (from an alternate timeline), she must actually be going around to prevent alternate versions of herself. But, if realities have become the same, are they still distinct realities? Admittedly, this gets into unanswerable temporal theory and such, but it could be a possibility. Perhaps, by ensuring her own rise in other timelines, she is "destroying" these alternate timelines by making them one with her own, and in this fashion she is preventing any possible opposition that could come from alternate universes.