And the twists keep on coming...

Devlor · Post by **Devlor** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 9:44 am

Ok, status check: we have an alternate dimension (possibley) where half the cast is missing, sci-fi is outlawed, relationships and personalities are different, and now we have megalomaniacs from the future assasinating the president. Oh, and half of the regular characters just died. God I love this comic <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">Ok, who wants to put bets down on who the general is going to be?------------------
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Moe · Post by **Moe** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 9:51 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by devlor:

Ok, who wants to put bets down on who the general is going to be?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, Kath's the smart money, followed by Shanna and Alison. Meghan and Jackie are dark horses, though possibly they were written in for just this scenario. April is highly unlikely, as she's too busy over at CRFH.Therefore, it must Rumi, six decades from now and bitter as hell about how the guys screwed up so badly.(pause)Well, maybe not. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
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Bushipunk · Post by **Bushipunk** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 9:53 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by devlor:
Ok, who wants to put bets down on who the general is going to be?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>As I already mentioned, my money's on the AlterKath, however her name turns out to be spelled. It's not like it's impossible to see see another character in that role, Kath is just the one I most easily associate the title of "the General" with.Alternately, if T was really completely evil, the oft requested second crossover with CRFH could take place now, with an alternate Margaret as the General... But T would never do something like that to us, would he?Oh, wait, he did just kill half the characters, as you mentioned, didn't he?Bushi

Nodrog · Post by **Nodrog** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 10:56 am

Hmmm... MY smart money says Rumi, since I don't recall the time traveller shooting her.However, my oddball money is firmly on Will... (See all hail her)

Schol-R-LEA · Post by **Schol-R-LEA** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 10:59 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bushipunk:

Alternately, if T was really completely evil, the oft requested second crossover with CRFH could take place now, with an alternate Margaret as the General... But T would never do something like that to us, would he?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't buy it. The motives are all wrong; why would she go after SF fans, rather than, say, Satanists? In any case, she couldn't be from the future, or even this alternative present; if she exists at all, then the world doesn't have a future. Assuming you take the word of the Prince of Lies, that is...Shanna would make much more sense, I think, except that this obviously has been going on since before any of these people were born. If the General's minions were modifying the past like this, then why not just 'edit out' the Fans pre-emptively? Does their future need the Fans to have existed at this point in time? That would point to it being/having been one of the Fans, but there's no way to know right now.Perhaps this is a result of Shanna holding the 23-sider of power. Or something.Actually, I think that this is all been a forshadowing of an incursion by the General's troops into the canonical FAANS! universe. If their goal is to wipe out all other timelines, then they've got a hell of a job cut out for themselves - an infinitely large one, strictly speaking, but hey, that didn't stop either Immortus or 'Empress Margaret the Singularity', did it?

Catz Bartlett · Post by **Catz Bartlett** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 11:15 am

Again, my money's on Will (or Winifred) to be the General...------------------
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KingLeon · Post by **KingLeon** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 1:03 am

Sounds like "Rasputin" to me... Made sense yesterday, considering Rasputin's role in history with the Czars, but today... well... maybe it still makes sense, maybe not...

Nullset · Post by **Nullset** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 1:25 am

Rasputin was the first thing I thought of when I read his name. Appropriate kind of person to give Rasputin-esque overtones to, I think.Got me wondering, though, is he trying to preserve history is he knows it, or create it in the first place? Day of the Daleks or Stainless Steel Rat Saves the World?And yes, you should thank me for not mentioning Back to the Future in this post. Or would have, if I'd not mentioned not mentioning it. Oh bugger...Nullset out.

FrustratedPilot · Post by **FrustratedPilot** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 1:36 am

You want weird? How about this!The General is Kath's DAUGHTER! She was so angered by Kath's abandonment of her that she got her revenge against ALL Skiffies.

Bushipunk · Post by **Bushipunk** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 9:08 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Schol-R-LEA:
 I don't buy it. The motives are all wrong; why would she go after SF fans, rather than, say, Satanists? In any case, she couldn't be from the future, or even this alternative present; if she exists at all, then the world doesn't have a future. Assuming you take the word of the Prince of Lies, that is...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't buy it either, but I will defend it to the death never the less.Her existance doesn't preclude there being a future... It just precludes that future being very pleasant (or survivable) for most of us.Anyway, this might explain the term "the General" being used instead of some higher rank... After all, in such a future the Prince of Lies would outrank Margaret, making her his general, perhaps.Why I'm defending a theory I'm perfectly certain is wrong I don't know...

Jmarquis · Post by **Jmarquis** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 9:14 am

We seem to forget,

Jmarquis · Post by **Jmarquis** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 9:15 am

We seem to forget,
WHO'S RESPIN!
Miller?
Guthrie's bro????Tim?------------------
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FlyingFish · Post by **FlyingFish** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 10:57 am

You know, we've never learned the last name of Tim the Fanboy. Maybe if he lost some weight over the years... ...nah.

Indi_warrior · Post by **Indi_warrior** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 11:14 am

Heheh, supercool... could be nepotism at its finest, with Kath being the General together with her daughter aspiring to rule the world... fun idea!!As for Respin, I can't wrap my mind around him being any sort of incarnation of any of the normal main Fans characters... so I still think he's just a lackey. To further the nepotism idea, maybe he's Kath's daughter's father.. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> (or Kath's daughter's father's older brother's dog's littermate's owner...)

Indi_warrior · Post by **Indi_warrior** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 12:34 pm

Ahhh, I FORGOT about the 23-sider of power, Schol-R-Lea!! That just lends more credibility to the Kath-hypothesizers in my view, since her deepest wish/weakness since the very beginning of the comic has been a lust for power that was overwhelming in some instances, and overwhelmed her good judgment. That would be the perfect excuse for her to become megalomaniacal... and as to why she would attack imagination? Well, she's smart, she's a chess player (which may be why she took a military title? Chess strategy and war strategy are very similar creatures), she knows that her enemies are likely to be the outside-thinkers, so to inoculate herself against a coup, she might wish to take out those who are "subversive," those who pose a threat...That's what my money's on. But then, I've been wrong every other time so far!!! ^.^ And I DO still like the Will/Wilhelmina idea...

Devlor · Post by **Devlor** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 12:34 pm

I don't know who Respin is, but there is one thing about him I do know:Rumi is going to seriously kick his ass. Yes! Rumi fight! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">------------------
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Devlor · Post by **Devlor** » Sat Jan 19, 2002 6:39 am

Here's an idea: if Kath is the General, maybe Respin is her son. We know that in the normal reality she had two children that she gave to adoption; maybe in this timeline she kept them, and they fed her ego and joined her in her quest for power? Hmmmmmmmm.------------------
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KingLeon · Post by **KingLeon** » Sat Jan 19, 2002 6:57 am

Well, why Kath? In an alternate history, what is likely to NOT happen (since it is an inherently random event) is that she doesn't get pregnant... in which case she might have been totally differant from the 'real' Kath. Rick and Rumy don't seem to different though (barring the fact that Rick seems to have realized about Rumy, and not met with Alisin, but still basically what they were in the other world... Rick still is a strong leader... Rumi still has the 'graphic' mind, so she's probably still an artist...)... Thack, yes, different... But wait a minute... Thack was a weak, evil computer super-genius in one world. In the the other... he is a slightly more strengthened, better meaning guy, but still with the same genius... (I wonder... those laser guns... made in both worlds... curious.) Kev seems like could be the same guy... Jones? A slight, but not hard jump from what he was just a little while ago...
So... the only real difference is Thack being good and that the nation went looney. Of course, that isn't a hard jump... I doubt any of the Fans are too far from what they are in the other world...I hope that sounded coherent. Sometimes I ramble...

Catz Bartlett · Post by **Catz Bartlett** » Sun Jan 20, 2002 3:43 am

Heh, seemed pretty coherent to me...You forgot one thing, though - in the 'normal' timeline, Thack didn't seem too brave - or cowardly, for that matter; he didn't seem quite HUMAN. He varied between Borg-like emotionlessness and, at his closest, enraged or somewhat perverted (namely, the almost-hentai scene where he used those wire-tendrils against Shanna).Alternate Thack seemed a LOT more human than his counterpart, even taking into account the switch 'tween good and evil...Well, that's my opinion, anyhoo.------------------
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