Saddam Sentanced to Death

[LoneWolf23k]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061105/ap_ ... am_verdict

I dunno about you guys, but knowing Saddam's about 30-60 days away from hanging from a noose kinda brings a warm, fuzzy feeling to my heart..

[Sharuuk]

Yup.....howsomever.....I'll hold my toast until they actually string the bastard up.....who knows...mebbe our capital punishment system could take a lesson or three from this.

It took what..10 years to finally be rid of Ted Bundy, and was it 10 years for Danny Rolling as well? Sitting on Death Row for 10-20-30 years is bullsh*t.....yes, there have been several men freed because of DNA evidence exonerating them....which tells me that the process can now be speeded up to a more sane level....say no more than 5 years max.

Oh yeah.....30-60 days...I'm ready for this one.

And didn't you get a huge laugh out of them throwing Ramsey Clark out of the courtroom for raising such a fuss over the virdict and sentence?

Şaaruuk

[Jwrebholz]

Ordinarily I am not the type of person who celebrates when someone else dies.

This however is far from ordinary circumstances. He's getting what he deserves.

[ChronicMisadventures]

I dunno about you guys, but knowing Saddam's about 30-60 days away from hanging from a noose kinda brings a warm, fuzzy feeling to my heart..

Well, possibly longer than 30-60. Some estimates are it might not be til Spring at earliest as any verdict of death or life in prison triggers an automatic appeal under the new Iraqi law. Now, the appeal doesn't have to be granted, but the paperwork and procedure to decide acceptance/rejection of appeal still has to go through. Once again proving that bureacracies are universal.

[Atarlost]

It doesn't matter. This has been a foregone conclusion since we handed him over. He faced a jury of his peers. If he appeals he'll face another jury of his peers. His peers aren't squeamish and his crimes were commited in the public record. This is as cut and dried a case as any the world has ever seen.

[ChronicMisadventures]

It doesn't matter. This has been a foregone conclusion since we handed him over. He faced a jury of his peers. If he appeals he'll face another jury of his peers. His peers aren't squeamish and his crimes were commited in the public record. This is as cut and dried a case as any the world has ever seen.

Won't stop some segments of 'the world' from claiming otherwise, tho, unfortunately. Some of the left-wing news sites, mostly the non-US ones, are protesting the trial as unfair to Saddam. Amnest International and its ilk are protesting the trial as well. With one or two sites claiming conspiracy that the verdict came out this close to the US election. Amusingly, at the UK Guardian you have left-wing readers condemning the death penalty as American barbarism yet simultaneously calling for it for Bush and Blair rather than Saddam.

[Detrius]

Amusingly, at the UK Guardian you have left-wing readers condemning the death penalty as American barbarism yet simultaneously calling for it for Bush and Blair rather than Saddam.

Links please?

[Madmoonie]

Good grief, those people would to try to get Hitler a reprieve, if they are wanting to give 'the 'Butcher of Baghdad' a differant trial.

[The JAM]

[raises the sole of his shoe] Here's to you, Saddam.

[ChronicMisadventures]

Amusingly, at the UK Guardian you have left-wing readers condemning the death penalty as American barbarism yet simultaneously calling for it for Bush and Blair rather than Saddam.

Links please?

Here you go: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archiv ... death.html

The reader quotes are beneath the news post. Here's a few sample quotes:

If Saddam deserves to be hung for his crimes and this is justice then Bush & Blair deserve to be eaten by rats after first being cooked in hydrogenated vegetable oil and they would be getting off lightly.

Given that the invasion of Iraq was illegal and given that hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died as a result of this invasion, it must be the case that Blair and Bush are also guilty of crimes against humanity.

Presumably we can look forward to a speedy trial for the pair of them?

Saddam is certainly guilty but the death penalty should never have been an option.

Further evidence in support of my complaints to morally bankrupt and incompetent member of the parliament of my constituency that in the War Criminal Mass Murderer Blair?s regime ?State Murders?. Judicial Crimes by the War Criminal Mass Murderer Blair's worse than Nazi Government now stretch right up to Iraq. Who next?

Historians in future will be indeed puzzled by the fact that the so-called civilised world sat back and watched whilst witless idiots in Bagdad lynched Saddam. This is a crying shame. If ever someone deserved the death sentence it is Bush and his fellow murderers who should be hanged 655000 times before they give up the ghost.

[LoneWolf23k]

Won't stop some segments of 'the world' from claiming otherwise, tho, unfortunately. Some of the left-wing news sites, mostly the non-US ones, are protesting the trial as unfair to Saddam. Amnest International and its ilk are protesting the trial as well.

...Ok, AmnInt has just lost whatever iota of my respect they still had..

Did they NOT see the mass graves filled with Saddam's victims? Have they already forgotten every atrocity Saddam has performed during his reign?

[Madmoonie]

One word: woodchipper.

[ChronicMisadventures]

Did they NOT see the mass graves filled with Saddam's victims? Have they already forgotten every atrocity Saddam has performed during his reign?

Oh they saw them, they'd just rather pick an argument since this 'wasn't an international tribunal' and had the death penalty as an option for punishment. If memory serves, Amnesty was one of those campaigning for the luxury treatment like Slobodon Milosevic got during his trial. Honestly, they could care less about justice for the victims than about pushing their own little agenda.

One of their latest quotes (brought to you courtesy of The Guardian) again):

Malcolm Smart, Amnesty's director of the Middle East and North Africa, said the trial was deeply flawed.

"This trial should have been a major contribution towards establishing justice and the rule of law in Iraq, and in ensuring truth and accountability for the massive human rights violations perpetrated by Saddam Hussein's rule.

"In practice, it has been a shabby affair, marred by serious flaws that call into question the capacity of the tribunal, as currently established, to administer justice fairly, in conformity with international standards."

Btw, one of Huffington Post's bloggers is pushing the 'this trial is wrong because Ramsey Clark says so' line and claiming the verdict was deliberately staged to occur this close to the US elections. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joan-z-sh ... 33311.html

Don't you just love this quote from that link?

How can anyone in a civilized world justify or condone what has happened? Invading (preemptively) a sovereign nation, occupying it, capturing its leader, setting up a kangaroo court, and sentencing him to hang for crimes against his own people.....
...
Now that Saddam has been judged and condemned for his crimes, who is
going to judge George W. Bush for his?

[Calbeck]

[raises the sole of his shoe] Here's to you, Saddam.

Death by shoe-beating, Iraqi style.

He's lucky to be getting hung instead.

[UncleMonty]

And just think... On Tuesday the US will have another election. People who think like those you've mentioned could end up running the show again.

Here in Washington State, our last election for Governor went through a count and two re-counts in which the Republican candidate won, and then on the third re-count the Democrat won. There were no further re-counts, and we have a Democrat in office... Just an example "FYI" so my fellow Americans will be ready for the coming circus.

[ChronicMisadventures]

Here in Washington State, our last election for Governor went through a count and two re-counts in which the Republican candidate won, and then on the third re-count the Democrat won. There were no further re-counts, and we have a Democrat in office... Just an example "FYI" so my fellow Americans will be ready for the coming circus.

...and, if memory serves, that third re-count was after someone "discovered" some new ballot boxes that'd have just enough votes to switch it, no?. ...as another FYI: due to the amount of absentee ballots filed in some districts (in my county here in Ohio, the Democrat-controlled election board's been urging everyone to vote absentee) the actual results may not be known on election night. ...also in several states, lawyers are supposedly already being mobilized to immediately file lawsuits alleging vote tampering if the "correct" candidate doesn't win.

I look forward to seeing if the Democrats here file another last-minute lawsuit on the morning of election day, as they did in 2004, to attempt to prevent observers in polling places. (in Ohio, all parties are allowed by law to each place 1 observer per polling location. On the day in question, the Democrats suddenly decided this should translate instead to '1 per building' as some buildings host seperate polling locations within the building for different districts, and thus the number of observers be decreased accordingly)

[MikeVanPelt]

Good grief, those people would to try to get Hitler a reprieve, if they are wanting to give 'the 'Butcher of Baghdad' a differant trial.

Or, they hate the current administration with such a white-hot, blind, irrational hatred that they will side with anyone -- ANY one -- that they perceive as an enemy of their primary hatred. They openly side with Saddam. With terrorists who saw the heads off of helpless shrieking captives on camera. With fanatical Islamists who would impose Taliban-style totalitarian religious rule if they got the chance. They would side with Hitler, or Pol Pot, or Stalin. They would try to call up Cthulhu and side with it if they thought it existed.

There was an old, original Twilight Zone episode that got replayed recently... a sqad of beaten, defeated, despairing Confederate soldiers encountered someone with satanic power who offered them the ability to win the war.

All but one of them wanted to accept the devil's bargain.

The one said (using the "D" word in its proper theological definition) "You want to beat the damned Yankees? That's what we say they are, right? Damned Yankees? But if we accept this bargain, it is us who are damned."

And that argument swayed the rest, they turned down the demonic offer, and accepted defeat.

I don't see anything like that kind of good sense coming out of many of today's Democrats.

Or, as Democrat Orson Scott Card wrote:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2006-10-29-1.html

[J4N1]

I'm all for death penalty, and hearing about this gives me a farm fuzzy feeling inside (or maybe it's just the cheese i'm eating).

[SolidusRaccoon]

So long Saddam, break a neck.

[Squeaky Bunny]

What if we tell the lefties that Saddam is just gonna get majorly stoned?