Max is cool

KimiG · Post by **KimiG** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 11:28 am

just thought Id say. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> but looks like hes having a insecurety moment there. and Kai I don't get whats happening in the next to last picture on p 22 did a piece of the wing fall off? is the plane on fire? what up??confused smoochies
KimiG

Ashandra · Post by **Ashandra** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 1:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by KimiG:
just thought Id say. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> but looks like hes having a insecurety moment there. and Kai I don't get whats happening in the next to last picture on p 22 did a piece of the wing fall off? is the plane on fire? what up??confused smoochies
KimiG<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You know, I'm not positive, but I think the ship is in some deep doodoo.Hope they can still make it into space...Ash

ZOMBIE USER 866 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 866** » Tue Feb 20, 2001 11:48 am

Yeeeeee! I get to talk aerodynamics!!! ***squirms with delight***This may be more than you guys want to know, though. Forgive me, if I've gone overboard with explaining, but I love this stuff. (~-^)In the 3rd panel of page 22, you can see the Dart is missing a chunk of rudder, already, from the previous explosion. The rudder is the moveable rear part of the vertical fin, and it's used to control yaw, or lateral right-left movement of the aircraft. When you press the left rudder pedal, the rudder turns to the left, which increases drag on the left side of the tail, so that the tail is pushed toward the right. Simultaneously, the nose turns to the left. Rudder damage by itself would make the plane hard to handle, though it wouldn't totally incapacitate it. While they were at low level, the plane could still be steered, even if the rudder were completely destroyed. All Max would have to do would be to use the two jets as differentials, increasing or decreasing the power in one or the other to effect a turn, or even diverting some thrust to one of the underside jet nozzles. The next explosion took a bite out of the outboard port (left) wing, which is where the aileron is. There's an aileron on each wing, on the outboard portion. The ailerons are hinged pieces of metal that can be raised or lowered by turning the yoke (the steering device) to the left or right (or in a fighter, moving the stick left or right). Normally, they are applied in conjunction with rudder pressure, so that the plane banks as it turns. This keeps all the gravitational forces balanced. Turn the yoke to the left, and the aileron on the left goes up, while the one on the right goes down. This increases drag on the top side of the left wing, and on the bottom side of the right one, which causes the left wing to drop while the right one rises. Losing the outboard portion of the port wing means that there is now more drag on the starboard (right) wing, and subsequently, the aircraft veers to the right. If there were a full and undamaged rudder, Max could probably counter that uneven drag by applying full left rudder. But...here's the problem: About half of the rudder is missing, so the rudder can, at best, be only half as effective. That may or may not be enough to counter the extra drag. This problem is compounded by the fact that they're already in EV (escape velocity) boost, which means the engines can no longer be used as differentials. The Dart's engines are designed for one EV boost, then they burn out and have to be replaced. To move the throttle now would snuff the engines, and the plane would quickly drop back to the surface. Also, the Dart is a medevac. It was designed to go straight in, pick up casualties, and get back out. It has only defensive weapons, and was not intended for the kind of fighter-like aerobatics Max has just put it through. The stress on the airframe probably contributed to the wing damage. The plane is not, however, on fire. The lines streaming from the nose and wings are supposed to represent airflow, so you can see that in addition to starboard yaw, it's trying to roll inverted. That's the result of the shock waves from the explosion, which was twice as big as the previous ones and closer to the plane's tail. Hope that wasn't too confusing.To sum it up, I'll paraphrase Ash san's remark: They are indeed in deep doodoo.(^-^)Kaichi
[This message has been edited by Kaichi (edited 02-20-2001).]

Jpeane · Post by **Jpeane** » Wed Feb 21, 2001 1:24 am

I love this too! I notice the Dart doesn't have a horizontal stabiliser on the tail. How do they climb and dive? The nozzles?And yeah Kimi, I'd say Max is indeed very cool and competent pilot. I think they'll make it ok.Satake san, will we get to see the Stingray Max talks about? I assume it's a fighter? Max acts and talks like a fighter jock. At least like the two I've met.Jim

KimiG · Post by **KimiG** » Wed Feb 21, 2001 1:31 am

well I am also in deep doodoo because my head just exploded. you owe me new carpet Kaichi. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">gooey smoochies
KimiG

ZOMBIE USER 866 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 866** » Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:00 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by KimiG:
well I am also in deep doodoo because my head just exploded. you owe me new carpet Kaichi. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">gooey smoochies
KimiG<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sorry, Kimi san. I guess I just get carried away, when I talk planes.I'm afraid I can't afford to replace your carpet, though. But good news: It's healthier for you to have un-carpeted floors...(~-^)Kaichi

ZOMBIE USER 866 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 866** » Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:06 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jpeane:
I love this too! I notice the Dart doesn't have a horizontal stabiliser on the tail. How do they climb and dive? The nozzles?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, the nozzles take the place of the elevator, in regular flight. The stream is directed back and down to dive, and forward and down to climb. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jpeane:
And yeah Kimi, I'd say Max is indeed very cool and competent pilot. I think they'll make it ok.Satake san, will we get to see the Stingray Max talks about? I assume it's a fighter? Max acts and talks like a fighter jock. At least like the two I've met.Jim<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Oh, yes! The Stingray is a single-seat fighter, a TAV like the Dart. And unless some major catastrophe befalls me before then, the Stingray will make its debut on this coming Monday, 26 Feb. I'm looking forward to drawing it!(^-^)Kaichi

Jpeane · Post by **Jpeane** » Thu Feb 22, 2001 1:21 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Kaichi:
 Oh, yes! The Stingray is a single-seat fighter, a TAV like the Dart. And unless some major catastrophe befalls me before then, the Stingray will make its debut on this coming Monday, 26 Feb. I'm looking forward to drawing it!(^-^)Kaichi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Great! Can't wait to see it. Is that what's on Max's patch? It looks like a different shape than the ones on the medics' sleeves. I can't really tell what it is in the drawing, as it's rather small.Jim

Jpeane · Post by **Jpeane** » Thu Feb 22, 2001 1:29 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ashandra:
Hmm...is it just me, or does it look like the boosters burned out before they were able to reach space? This could be a major problem.Ash
(Though, I think Max and his partner would be a bit more worried if they hadn't gotten into space)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I could be wrong, but I think they've reached space. Else they'd be falling backward, and if character holds true, Max would be cursing rather badly at this point. There's something in the background of the panel where Max is saying they're off course, but I can't tell what it is. Maybe the Akagi? If it is, it seems they're a good ways from it.I suppose we'll find out this week...Jim

Ashandra · Post by **Ashandra** » Thu Feb 22, 2001 1:54 am

Hmm...is it just me, or does it look like the boosters burned out before they were able to reach space? This could be a major problem.Ash
(Though, I think Max and his partner would be a bit more worried if they hadn't gotten into space)

ZOMBIE USER 866 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 866** » Thu Feb 22, 2001 5:14 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jpeane:
 Great! Can't wait to see it. Is that what's on Max's patch? It looks like a different shape than the ones on the medics' sleeves. I can't really tell what it is in the drawing, as it's rather small.Jim<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, it's a Stingray. That's his squadron patch. If I can remember, I'll do a closeup of it and post it in here or someplace on the site. Remind me, if I still haven't done it by Monday. (^-^)Kaichi

ZOMBIE USER 866 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 866** » Thu Feb 22, 2001 5:21 am

By the way, they are actually in space, now-- though, just barely. Sorry if that was confusing. I used dark grey behind the Dart, because the black looked bad. I should have made it darker, though, or put in some stars. That might have helped. I may go back and do that, this weekend, if I have a chance.Jim is right about Max, too. He has a hot temper and a sharp tongue. If they were falling, I'd have had to X-rate the comic, because his language would go through the roof.(~-^)Kaichi

KimiG · Post by **KimiG** » Fri Feb 23, 2001 1:18 am

woohoo!!! Max is making me hot. I'll bet he's a monster in bed!!!!!! all that heats gotta go someplace wooee! Im gonna have to lick him and see how hot he is. ;P yeoweee! yep he's hot!! and don't put ratings on there Kai i hate ratings.smoochies and hot lickies,
KimiG

Ashandra · Post by **Ashandra** » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:01 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Kaichi:
By the way, they are actually in space, now-- though, just barely. Sorry if that was confusing. I used dark grey behind the Dart, because the black looked bad. I should have made it darker, though, or put in some stars. That might have helped. I may go back and do that, this weekend, if I have a chance.Jim is right about Max, too. He has a hot temper and a sharp tongue. If they were falling, I'd have had to X-rate the comic, because his language would go through the roof.(~-^)Kaichi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmm...so does that mean that today's page will be X-rated?Ash
(having trouble seeing the comic through the blue air..)

ZOMBIE USER 866 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 866** » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:02 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ashandra:
 Hmm...so does that mean that today's page will be X-rated?Ash
(having trouble seeing the comic through the blue air..)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Heh heh...sorry about the air pollution, Ash san. But honestly, Max can spout a lot worse than what he's spouting, today. Not that I'm going to allow him to do it--that is, if I can stop him. (~-^)Writing/drawing him really wears me out. I'm thinking twice, now, about allowing him to become a major character. Today's comic almost gave me a stroke. I usually try to feel whatever emotion the character is feeling, while I'm drawing, so I can get the expressions right. After spending several days in his head, I can see Max desperately needs a furlough...(~-^)Kaichi

ZOMBIE USER 866 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 866** » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:15 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by KimiG:
woohoo!!! Max is making me hot. I'll bet he's a monster in bed!!!!!! all that heats gotta go someplace wooee! Im gonna have to lick him and see how hot he is. ;P yeoweee! yep he's hot!! and don't put ratings on there Kai i hate ratings.smoochies and hot lickies,
KimiG <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think Max could probably benefit from some good hard licking, Kimi san. Might calm him down, a little. (~-^)And I'm only thinking about ratings, right now. I know several other comics (including Elf Life) have RASCi ratings. I'm kind of torn about it, myself. On one hand, I think it would be good to limit kids from being able to get to this stuff. At the same time, I do have an adults-only warning on the entry page of ShadowFall. I really believe it's the parents' reponsibility to supervise their kids while they surf the net. It shouldn't be used as a babysitting device, and neither should the tv, video game machine or movies be used in that way.Okay, I'll step off the soap box, now.(^-^)Kaichi

Genjiro · Post by **Genjiro** » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:20 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by KimiG:
woohoo!!! Max is making me hot. I'll bet he's a monster in bed!!!!!! all that heats gotta go someplace wooee! Im gonna have to lick him and see how hot he is. ;P yeoweee! yep he's hot!! and don't put ratings on there Kai i hate ratings.smoochies and hot lickies,
KimiG <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><img src="http://www.kyokipress.com/images/icons/shocked.gif"> KIMI CHAN!!!!!!!! Stop licking him!!! Lick me!!! Pet me!!! Love ME!!!***wails***I'm feeling really ignored, right now...<img src="http://www.kyokipress.com/images/icons/ ... Genjiro
(sniffle)